Depending on bots to set up symmetric relations is one of the things I find
very weird in Wikidata. That creates a situation where a user do an edit,
and a bot later on overrides the users previous edit. It is exactly the
same race condition that we fought earlier with the iw-bots, but now
replicated in Wikidata - a system that was supposed to remove the problem.
/me dumb, me confused.. o_O
On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Daniel Kinzler <daniel.kinzler(a)wikimedia.de
Am 28.09.2015 um 16:43 schrieb Thomas Douillard:
Daniel Wrote:
> (*) This follows the principle of "magic is bad, let people edit".
Allowing
> inconsistencies means we can detect errors by
finding such
inconsistencies.
> Automatically enforcing consistency may lead
to errors propagating out
of view
> of the curation process. The QA process on
wikis is centered around
edits, so
> every change should be an edit. Using a bot
to fill in missing
"reverse" links
> follows this idea. The fact that you found an
issue with the data
because you
saw a bot
do an edit is an example of this principle working nicely.
That might prove to become a worser nightmare than the magic one ...
It's
seems
like refusing any kind of automation because it
might surprise people
for the
sake of exhausting them to let them do a lot of
manual work.
I'm not arguing against "any" kind of automation. I'm arguing against
"invisible" automation baked into the backend software. We(*) very much
encourage "visible" automation under community control like bots and other
(semi-)automatic import tools like WiDaR.
-- daniel
(*) I'm part of the wikidata developer team, not an active member of the
community. I'm primarily speaking for myself here, from my personal
experience
as a wikipedia and common admin. I know from past discussions that "bots
over
magic" is considered Best Practice among the dev team, and I believe it's
also
the approach preferred by the Wikidata community, but I cannot speak for
them.
--
Daniel Kinzler
Senior Software Developer
Wikimedia Deutschland
Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V.
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