Great, and thanks for your work! I suggest not placing
the project behind
a link like "Informatics" but just make a basic project for
"Software"
though. Someone else can go create a project for "Computers" and the
Informatics page can be updated accordingly. The easiest thing would be to
start copying some of the stuff from the old English Wikiprojects
directory. They may be largely unused, but those pages can still be reused
to build basic how-to-model pages on Wikidata.
On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 8:25 AM, Loic Dachary <loic(a)dachary.org> wrote:
Hi Jane,
On 26/08/2016 14:01, Jane Darnell wrote:
Hi Loic,
I recently noticed that the history of software is severely
underrepresented on
Wikidata and there is very little interlinking going on
at all, while many items are missing P31. I do think it would be useful to
create a Wikidata:<Software project> page to list the various types of
software (OS, languages, development environments) and model how to use
properties to flesh out such items. I suspect there are several properties
that need to be created, such as "Principal developer" or something like
that.
You're right ! That's what
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/
Wikidata:WikiProject_Informatics/FLOSS and
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/
Wikidata:WikiProject_Informatics/Software are about, but it's quite
recent.
I agree however that for a low-threshold Wikidata
meetup, the most
important thing is to share basic gadgets and knowledge, because
there is
so much still to be done on outreach in all languages. I noticed for
example that Listeria was blocked on Portuguese Wikipedia due to objections
in the labelling showing up in list headers. This shows how the basic
interface is still such a mystery to so many communities, probably because
the basic interface is still so incomplete in those languages.
That makes perfect sense. My bug report was not about the scope of the
workshop. It was more about the contradiction between the workshop
description and what happened, the way communication was handled overall
and the fact that it lead to a situation that is counterproductive and
generally unpleasant for the people involved. It's easy to fix and I'm sure
things will be better next time :-)
Cheers
Jane
On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 7:27 AM, Loic Dachary <loic(a)dachary.org
<mailto:loic@dachary.org>> wrote:
Hi Sylvain,
On 26/08/2016 11:43, Sylvain Boissel wrote:
>
>
> 2016-08-21 19:06 GMT+02:00 Loic Dachary <loic(a)dachary.org
<mailto:loic@dachary.org> <mailto:loic@dachary.org <mailto:
loic(a)dachary.org>>>;>>:
>
> When the audience was asked for their preferences, I raised
my hand
and happily declared "Contributing to the Software and FLOSS
projects !". Much to my surprise this was quickly dismissed: "we're only
going to learn about tools, we create groups to use and learn about tools,
not to work on a specific project". My interest for the Software project is
known to both Harmonia Amanda and Ash_Crow, to the extent that I discussed
with them my intent to recruit people to participate in the workshop for
that particular topic[3], well in advance.
>
> And I answered you weeks ago that I plan to organize a fully
dedicated
workshop on this topic later this year, involving local free
software organizations like Parinux or Framasoft.
I remember that, excellent initiative :-) I'm not sure how it
explains
what happened during the wikiconvention though.
I was connected to #wikidata-fr today and read a conversation on
this topic,
involving you and Harmonia Amanda (which I will not quote here
because I assume this is not a good behavior to quote from channels that
are not logged). The general tone was unfriendly and made me feel unwanted
as a contributor. It also made me realize that my efforts to bring more
French people / organizations to wikidata were mocked and unappreciated.
As a volunteer I value good relationships even more than technical
contributions. For this reason I will distance myself from the wikidata
French community. I hope to return in the future when a more welcoming
context has been established.
Cheers
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