Hoi,
No Sjoerd, the primary post is about issues how to fix them and how to signal them.

When it is about nationality, it is an old story and as far as I am concerned countries have a start date and often an end date. Prior to this start date the country does not exist. During the epoch of the existence of a country its borders change. Add to that the fact that people may have double nationalities or no nationality at all.. In the end it is a morass.
Thanks,
       GerardM

On 5 November 2017 at 17:27, Sjoerd de Bruin <sjoerddebruin@me.com> wrote:
You are not answering the question (not the first time). P27 has a lot of problems, due to people using it for citizenship and nationality at the same time. Put this in combination with the "fantastic" Wikipedia category system! AFAIK there is still some discussion going on here: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Nationality

You can fix some items manually, but a good discussion and reform about how we structure this kind of information is needed.

Greetings,

Sjoerd de Bruin
sjoerddebruin@me.com

Op 5 nov. 2017, om 12:04 heeft Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:

Hoi,
There is much more to this. When a publication has been denounced, when the author is denounced for having it ghost written. When ghost written is not to reflect because of the stigma involved.. We should forcefully flag publications, findings and authors when there is a problem.. A query should not include what they publiced what hey "found".

At this moment Wikidata is very much a stamp collection and we should be more than that.
Thanks,
     GerardM

On 5 November 2017 at 11:40, Marco Neumann <marco.neumann@gmail.com> wrote:
What's the current procedure for disputing a non trivial claim on a
wikidata item?

I know I can just go ahead and change a claim (statement and/or its
value) but the dispute itself would only be captured in the change-log
of the respective wikidata instance.

Would one create a discussion entry on the item page first to motivate
a change on an item that's not straight forward?

so for example on the item

Paul Staines
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q16191299

it states that person has

:country of citizenship :United Kingdom
(a claim created by  Rpfb119 on 1 April 2015‎ )

but on wikipedia-en it says nationality Irish without a reference
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Staines

is there or should there be a qualifier/reference to flag a statement
to be in dispute?

Also is this mailing-list the best place to discuss such (item
specific) matters? Or is the Wikidata community portal with the
Requests for comment service a better place?


thx
Marco


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