On Sun, 2021-09-19 at 12:17 +0300, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
[...]
> The Wikidata community also can't benefit from those publications
> unless
> they're made (libre) open access, so I think it would be fair to
> require
> all the papers will be OA (preferably) or explaining how the authors
> can
> archive them (for free) under a free license (libre green OA) à la:
> https://www.coalition-s.org/rights-retention-strategy/
> https://cyber.harvard.edu/hoap/How_to_make_your_own_work_open_access
I think this is too strong. There is no reason that the Wikidata
community cannot benefit from publications in venues that are not open
access. Of course open access makes publications more accessible and
more in line with Wikidata goals but to my mind a publication that is
not open access can provide a benefit to the Wikidata community.
While "can't benefit from those publications" over-states the case, choosing to allow (contextualized, appropriate, etc.) CfPs associated with events/publications that are in line with Wikidata goals does make sense. Giving a positive nudge and benefit to likeminded efforts seems fine.
The challenge is that this isn't a strict boolean (eg exclusive elite expensive events with open proceedings, or more inclusive/accessible participation but old-style publication…), and policing those grey areas is work for someone.
I guess refining policing wiki rules is what some folks do for fun around here, so maybe I should switch to listening mode at this point…
Dan
> From a search <https://link.lens.org/AFeru5oPGdg> it's easy to find
> good and bad examples. Bad is
> e.g.https://www.elsevier.com/journals/journal-of-web-semantics/1570-8268/guide-for-authors
> >
> (claims embargos and all sorts of restrictions), rather good is e.g.
> <https://aclanthology.org/venues/emnlp/>
> (<https://aclanthology.org/faq/> states CC-BY).
I think that you should have searched further and found out more about
the open access policy of the Journal of Web Semantics. In
https://www.elsevier.com/journals/journal-of-web-semantics/1570-8268/open-access-options
there is "In accordance with funding body requirements, Elsevier does
offer alternative open access publishing options. Visit our open access
page for full information."
> Federico
peter
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