Hi Markus and All,

Looking forward to when further parts of this Wikidata-Wikipedia bridging puzzle come together - and re Wikipedia Info Boxes and Wikidata Items (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Infoboxes & https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Infoboxes). I wonder in what ways a templates' approach could FURTHER play a complementary role here (which might be something for a new different thread than this "info box proposal" Wikidata thread) and in terms of making easy using Wikidata ITEMS (SQL) in new ways in conjunction with ongoing ease of end-user editing (e..g. in wiki or Wikipedia).

While this templates' approach may find best form in MediaWiki (so visual editor et al), I have in mind this central World University and School SUBJECT TEMPLATE - http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/SUBJECT_TEMPLATE (and its related templates: Languages (all), Nation States (all, each a major university), Museums, etc., at bottom ) - which inform almost all 720 pages of WUaS currently (which is mostly in English currently, except for the CC MIT OCW in 7 languages) but plans to be in all 358 Wikipedia languages (and eventually in all 8k languages) - for thinking further about this. WUaS donated itself to Wikidata last autumn.

Wikipedia info boxes may be the answer to this Templates' approach - by building in differentially developing Wikipedia info boxes for their relative ease of use with structured data/Items into Templates for use in new ways. I'm thinking here about what's ahead with voice for Wikidata, and how I might be able to say (in Android currently) to my phone "please add this link to "regional languages in Germany" to the Germany Wikipedia information box with its links to Wikidata items here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany (e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Germany) - like one sees in India Wikipedia information box here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India (e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_India). Would using voice with info boxes into Wikidata facilitate new kinds of ease of use in Wikidata? Could we dedicate a specific kind of Wikipedia info box to voice developments (... and later use brain wave headsets for adding information in a kind of drag and drop a link ... and then even later develop this voice approach - voice is so easy! - (and beyond that brainwave headsets) with SQL ad SQID, for example. 

I'm wondering further, thinking ahead, re info boxes and the WUaS SUBJECT TEMPLATE +, whether it might be possible to turn each "subsection" in WUaS into a kind of dedicated Wikipedia info box <> Wikidata items ... and anticipate both voice, head sets and SQL. Are these some logical next steps in this puzzle coming together, Markus and All?  

As the pieces of the puzzle come further together, the beauty of a "templates approach" offering specialization of info boxes (re accessing https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Data_access) - is their ease of editing - like in Wikipedia - and their potential for exploring interfacing with structured data in possibly new unfolding ways.

Thank you for these great Wikidata and Wikipedia projects - now in all 358 languages. 

Cheers, Scott



On Aug 3, 2016 9:16 AM, "Federico Leva (Nemo)" <nemowiki@gmail.com> wrote:
Brill Lyle, 03/08/2016 13:30:
Huge barrier for Wikipedia end-users.

What makes you think so? Did you interview or observe users editing? In my experience, Wikidata is much easier for newbies to grasp than wikitext or even VisualEditor: like VisualEditor's template editor, Wikidata resembles a standard form, which people are used to.

We only need to make sure there are direct deep links from each piece of displayed (or missing) information to the statement on Wikidata where they are (or should be); and later add dialogs for direct editing from the client wikis, as was done long ago with the interlanguage links.

Nemo

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