Hoi,

To be honest, I think that it is important to patrol changes in the changed data. However, accepting changes manually on all Wikipedias does not scale. You are completely right in this. When changes occur in Wikidata, it will result in changes everywhere in the same way as changes at Commons.

When a change at Wikidata has been "patrolled", it is imho up to a Wikipedia to accept patrolled changes. In this way changes only need to be accepted once for all our projects. When they want to patrol locally as well, it is their choice as are the consequences of the extra work load and the negligible benefit of this effort. The problem I see is that the people who are most likely to insist on more work are not the ones who will be do this work.

Thanks,

      GerardM

On 4 June 2016 at 11:55, John Erling Blad <jeblad@gmail.com> wrote:

Given Lydias post I wonder if it is to be expected that editors on Wikipedia shall manually import statements from Wikidata, as this is what can be read out of this thesis. This will create a huge backlog of work on all Wikipedias, and I can't see how we possibly can do this. For the moment we have a huge backlog on sources on nowiki, and adding a lot of additional manual work will not go very well with the community.

What is the plan, can Lydia or some else please clarify?

On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 11:43 PM, John Erling Blad <jeblad@gmail.com> wrote:

Page 21, moving to manual import of statements. I would really like to see the analysis written out that ends in this conclusion. It is very tempting, but the idea don't scale.

We have now about 5-10 000 articles per active user. Those users have a huge backlog of missing references. If they shall manage statements in addition to their current backlog, then they will simply be overwhelmed.

On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 6:05 PM, Lydia Pintscher <Lydia.Pintscher@wikimedia.de> wrote:

Hey folks :)

Charlie has been working on concepts for making it possible to edit Wikidata from Wikipedia and other wikis. This was her bachelor thesis. She has now published it: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Facilitating_the_use_of_Wikidata_in_Wikimedia_projects_with_a_user-centered_design_approach.pdf

I am very happy she put a lot of thought and work into figuring out all the complexities of the topic and how to make this understandable for editors. We still have more work to do on the concepts and then actually have to implement it. Comments welcome.

Cheers
Lydia

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