Thank you for the link to the paper. I will read this as soon as possible. 

Yes. UI is what I care about. Unless it is a floating popup box like for the Reftoolbar Cites in Wiki Markup I am going to have grave concerns. It has to be implemented equally well on both Visual Editor and Wiki Markup interfaces. So well done the casual editor doesn't need to understand the Wikidata backbone underpinning the info. 

I actually think the grant does not go FAR enough. It needs UI / Wikipedia end-user integration built into the process from the beginning. A programming project that is modest and depreciates Infoboxes without the primary focus on existing end-users is not good enough. 

AND: Funding this grant, does it mean automatic endorsement and implementation on Wiki? I would be very concerned if this was the case. 

Erika

On Aug 3, 2016, at 7:49 AM, Lucie Kaffee <lucie.kaffee@wikimedia.de> wrote:

Charlie wrote her thesis on how you could integrate Wikidata in Wikipedia, specifically on Infoboxes, so that might be worth a look when it comes to this topic, too.
So there is research from the UX perspective and how it'd be able to edit etc available.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Facilitating_the_use_of_Wikidata_in_Wikimedia_projects_with_a_user-centered_design_approach.pdf

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 1:44 PM, Yuri Astrakhan <yastrakhan@wikimedia.org> wrote:

Erika, would building a better wikidata UI help alleviate your concern?  For example, it used to be that to add a link to the same article in another language, one had to edit raw wiki markup and add a weird language link. Now with wikidata it is by far more intuitive, with an edit button right next to the list, with an auto-complete and language selector. Could we try to build something similar for the infoboxes?

On Aug 3, 2016 2:31 PM, "Brill Lyle" <wp.brilllyle@gmail.com> wrote:

Saw this posted on Twitter.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Putnik/Wikidata_module

This proposal is my greatest fear with Wikidata. Depreciate Infoboxes to Wikidata so casual Wikipedia editors can't edit on Wiki, are forced to use Wikidata (comparable to existing Authority Control depreciation). Huge barrier for Wikipedia end-users. 

Before I voice my concerns on this Grant page, I wondered if the end-user issue has been discussed here -- and if this could be explained why it is such a good idea? And what user issues have been and could be addressed before the project is implemented.

I understand something like this is part of Russian Wikipedia. How did that community respond to this what I see as significant change?

- Erika

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