Hoi, I care for the English Wikipedia data but the DBpedia for the English Wikipedia is NOT the same as the one for Russian, Dutch, French or German. They are distinct.
I welcome the move by the English Wikipedia but it is only a small subset of the people who die. With the inclusion of all the DBpedia data ie for all Wikipedias it harvests we are substantially more than en.wp alone.
The one thing I hate about not cooperating is that we are backward as a result and aim to learn the lessons that are already learned. Thanks, GerardM
On 4 June 2015 at 00:18, Markus Krötzsch markus@semantic-mediawiki.org wrote:
On 03.06.2015 22:44, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
Hoi, The Dutch indicated their willingness to add the dead to Wikidata ... I add quite a few dead from other countries and because of Jura1 Brazilians who died in 2015 have an added significance.
Given that we CAN produce lists like this, it makes sense to reconsider the offer by the fine people from DBpedia and have the information they harvest from Wikipedia added automatically to Wikidata.. One reason I pointed out on my recent blogpost..
DBpedia is getting this information from the contents of the template Persondata as used on Wikipedia [1]. The enwiki community just recently decided to maintain this data on Wikidata instead. I guess this means that (English) DBpedia will not contain this data in the future, unless they import it from Wikidata (they are tracking the issue at [2]).
So you see, times are changing quickly ... but overall I hope that this is still solving the problem you identified, in fact in a much more direct way than one might have hoped for :-).
DBpedia may still play a role. I don't know how exactly the enwiki community is planning to implement the move from Persondata to Wikidata. It could be that DBpedia is the only project extracting this data. So in a way, your suggestion might be a great idea, though not as a long-term data maintenance plan but as a one-time help for migration.
To support data maintenance further, it would make sense to use bots for synching with authority files. These files also contain death dates and they can even be used as a valid reference.
Regards,
Markus
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Persondata [2] https://github.com/dbpedia/extraction-framework/issues/397
Thanks,
GerardMhttp://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2015/06/wikidata-jurandyr-noronha-died-in...
On 3 June 2015 at 07:16, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen@gmail.com mailto:gerard.meijssen@gmail.com> wrote:
Hoi, Jura1 created a wonderful list of people who died in Brazil in 2015 [1]. It is a page that may update regularly from Wikidata thanks to the ListeriaBot. Obviously, there may be a few more because I am falling ever more behind with my quest for registering deaths in 2015. I have copied his work and created a page for people who died in the Netherlands in 2015 [2]. It is trivially easy to do this and, the result is great. The result looks great, it can be used for any country in any Wikipedia The Dutch Wikipedia indicated that they nowadays maintain important metadata at Wikidata. I am really happy that we can showcase their work. It is important work because as someone reminded me at some stage, this is part of what amounts to the policy of living people... Thanks, GerardM [1] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Jura1/Recent_deaths_in_Brazil [2]https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Jura1/Recent_deaths_in_the_Netherlands
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