Thanks both. I'll try hacking out an aggregated list tonight and send
the link around, but for now if there's anything you know for sure we
cover comprehensively, fire away with your suggestions :-)
Mix-and-match was in the back of my head, as it has a nice example of
all three groups:
* Already completely included - MEPs (at least until the next election), ODNB
* Going to be included but not there yet - Dictionary of Welsh Biography
* Will never be completely included - ACAD
Andrew.
On 11 March 2015 at 14:31, Magnus Manske <magnusmanske(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
I can offer
https://tools.wmflabs.org/mix-n-match/
This (or a future successor) could serve as the "list keeper" for, say, list
of lighthouses, or graded buildings in the UK.
One thing that IMHO would be required for this to work would be a
(semi-)automatic sync of the "list keeper" with authoritative external lists
(unless we want to sync those to Wikidata directly).
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 2:09 PM Markus Krötzsch
<markus(a)semantic-mediawiki.org> wrote:
Hi Andrew,
This is a great idea! It would help data consumers to know what to
expect and community members to know what to put in (or where help with
imports would be appreciated). Moreover, the discussion about this list
would be a great way to structure our work in general (have documented
discussions about our goals for certain types of data). I feel that the
bot right approval process is not the best place to decide if we strive
to have all streets or all lighthouses in.
For things that are not complete in Wikidata (yet or ever), it would
further help to provide pointers to other, more complete data sources
(and the properties we might have to link to them).
The question is how to best organise this list. Your initial example
setup already shows that this tends to become very diverse (not to say:
chaotic). One could link this from the related class items (e.g.,
lighthouses or paintings), but having this as another extra load on the
talk page would maybe not so ideal either. After all, this could be one
of the first things that newbies to Wikidata want to get an idea about.
Cheers,
Markus
On 11.03.2015 14:07, Andrew Gray wrote:
...
I wonder if it would be useful to have a
centralised list of "classes
of things in Wikidata". For example:
Things entirely in Wikidata
* MEPs
* County-level administrative divisions of all countries
* All artworks by the following people (list)
* Cultural heritage sites in the following countries (list)
* All people listed in the following biographical databases (list)
* (etc)
Things not yet entirely in Wikidata (but probably will be eventually)
* All national-level elected representatives
* All species
* Lighthouses
* All artworks by the following people (list)
* Cultural heritage sites in the following countries (list)
* All people listed in the following biographical databases (list)
Things which will never be complete in Wikidata
* All local politicians
* Streets worldwide
* All businesses
This would be a very useful adjunct to the notability page, as it
would give concrete examples to work from for the sort of things we
feel are appropriate.
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