On 9/25/13 2:06 PM, Lydia Pintscher wrote:
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Antoine Isaac aisaac@few.vu.nl wrote:
Hello Denny,
I think we in Europeana had the same problem in the GLAMwiki toolset project [1]. We wanted to submit the metadata we had for Europeana objects to be uploaded in Commons, but that was not fully possible... So we'd have to think of an alternative. Do you think it could happen via Wikidata?
Hey Antoine :)
Without knowing what the issues where it is impossible to say if this can/should be done via Wikidata to be honest.
Hi Lydia (and congrats!!)
I don't remember the specifics of the Commons issue, I was not really in it (I cc my colleague David Haskiya to correct me if I'm writing too much crap). But basically I think it was because the templates were not much open for additions of data fields.
Which might be related to the issue Daniel mentioned also in [1]: that data about artworks, creators etc fit well on Wikidata but data about digital files fit better on Commons. In the GLAMWiki project now, somehow everything has to be packed together in the existing Commons template.
Now, if there are alternatives that allow us (or more precisely, whoever decides to upload an object mediated by Europeana into Commons) to send more complete descriptive data in Wikidata that somehow ends up being connected to the media data in Commons, that would be good.
I'm not really into this--I assume that you guys are much closer to the thing ;-)
Meanwhile, David and I have seen that you have work in progress in task forces on art works [2,3]. If we find the time Europeana could try to contribute to this. It can ensure we can feed more data into Commons, when the time has come.
But: we are really tight on resources this day, and it's quite unclear, what the timing is, for the discussion in this task force!
Cheers,
Antoine
[1] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata-l/2013-September/002915.html [2] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Artworks_task_force [3] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_of_properties/Works