Yes!

 

Trying to represent this scenario:

 

Hypothetically, someone [wikidata item A] uses a personal pronoun set [wikidata property A] of “She/they/theirs/herself”. Another hypothetical person [wikidata item B] uses a personal pronoun set [wikidata property A] of “He/they/his/himself”.

 

To say

 

[Wikidata item A] P6553 L484, L371

Or

[wikidata item b] P6553 L485, L371

 

Is not correct, because these hypothetical humans only use selected forms of these personal pronoun lexemes. I am considering possibilities (not proposing any changes, just trying to figure out what’s possible in the Wikidata data model) for modeling these differently by grouping forms of lexemes within either items or lexemes for sets of pronouns.

 

So I’m modeling out something like:

 

[Lexeme set A] [wikidata property “has part”] [lexeme form 1], [lexeme form 2], etc.

[wikidata item A] [wikidata property “uses personal pronoun set”] [Lexeme set A]

 

Or

 

[lexeme form 1] [wikidata property “item of form”]  [wikidata item C]

[lexeme form 2] [wikidata property “item of form”] [wikidata item D]

[wikidata item E] has part [wikidata item C]

[wikidata item E] has part [wikidata item D]

[wikidata item A] [wikidata property “uses personal pronoun set”] [wikidata item E]

 

But am unsure of whether lexemes can be used in these ways.

From: Thad Guidry <thadguidry@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2022 6:40 PM
To: Discussion list for the Wikidata project <wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: [Wikidata] Re: Questions about Lexicographical Data

 

Hi Crystal,

 

Just so we are more clear on the use case for "forms of lexemes", can you give one example of some forms you wish to group together with some classification?

 

 

On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 5:14 PM Crystal E. Clements <cec23@uw.edu> wrote:

Hello,

 

I have a few questions about lexicographical data. I am an experienced Wikidata editor, but have no experience with lexemes so I’m sorry if this is documented somewhere and I failed to find it.

 

Is it possible to create a property which groups specific forms of lexemes together into a set, as has been done with conjunctions but for…not conjunctions? If the grouped forms are forms of distinct lexemes, can the newly-created set be typed as a lexeme, or should it be classed as an item? If creating sets of forms classed as lexemes would break the lexeme data model, would it be acceptable to create a property “item of form” similar to “item of sense” in order to group forms together as sets?

 

Any help would be appreciated,

 

Crystal Clements, MLIS

Science Cataloger

Cataloging and Metadata Services

University of Washington Libraries

Box 352900

Seattle, Washington 98195

cec23@uw.edu

 

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