Hoi,

Query has been promised and unofficially we have it for a VERY long time.. It is called WDQ. it is used in many tools. The official query will only provide a subset of functionality for quite some time as I understand it.

Practical cases in RDF for what by whom ? Wikidata is first and foremost a vehicle to bring interwiki links to our projects. Then and only then it becomes relevant to store data about the items involved. This data may be used in info boxes and what not in our projects.. THAT is practical use to our community.

RDF may of interest to others and it may be possible to do practical things by them but that does not prioritise it. I do not think Wikidata can do better. As far as I am concerned it is the least of our problems. The reuse of data is first to happen within our projects and THAT is not so much of a technical problem at all.

Thanks,

GerardM

On 28 October 2014 11:26, Martynas Jusevičius <martynas@graphity.org> wrote:

Gerard,

what about query functionality for example? This has been long
promised but shows no real progress.

And why do you think practical cases cannot be implemented using RDF?
What is the justification for ignoring the whole standard and
implementation stack? What makes you think Wikidata can do better than
RDF?

Martynas

On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 6:48 AM, Gerard Meijssen
<gerard.meijssen@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hoi,
> Hell no. Wikidata is first and foremost a product that is actually used. It
> has that way from the start. Prioritising RDF over actual practical use
> cases is imho wrong. If anything the continuous tinkering on the format of
> dumps has mostly brought us grieve. Dumps that can no longer be read like
> currently for the Wikidata statistics really hurt.
>
> So lets not spend time at this time on RDF, Lets ensure that what we have
> works, works well and plan carefully for a better RDF but lets only have it
> go in production AFTER we know that it works well.
> Thanks,
> GerardM
>
> On 28 October 2014 02:46, Martynas Jusevičius <martynas@graphity.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> so I see there is some work being done on mapping Wikidata data model
>> to RDF [1].
>>
>> Just a thought: what if you actually used RDF and Wikidata's concepts
>> modeled in it right from the start? And used standard RDF tools, APIs,
>> query language (SPARQL) instead of building the whole thing from
>> scratch?
>>
>> Is it just me or was this decision really a colossal waste of resources?
>>
>>
>> [1] http://korrekt.org/papers/Wikidata-RDF-export-2014.pdf
>>
>> Martynas
>> http://graphityhq.com
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