Hi James

This list would definitely work. Almost all task list items are biographies / BLP. 

I'm not sure I understand how they are implemented or how the info is collocated, but yes. We could make sure the almost 1,000 items all have Wikidata items. That would be the heavy lifting part on our side. But if it could produce granulated results by gender, by residence, by place born, that would totally work!

So I think the constraints are:
- gender
- residence
- place of birth

Let me know what I can do. 

We have a Google Sheet document to keep track of the task list that has a checklist of which entries need Wikidata items. It's going to take time to update and vet but it seemed like an organized approach. We are collocating the artists in both Wikipedia as well as on Commons with the category Visual artists of the African diaspora.

I have a lot of experience editing XML and can learn template structures as needed. I have to skill up on queries but I can do that too. 

Best, 

- Erika



On Feb 7, 2017, at 5:56 PM, James Hare <jamesmhare@gmail.com> wrote:

One place where Wikidata has been very good for task list automation has been biographies. See for example this automated list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Technology/Tasks/Wikidata_Missing_Article_Report

Reports are these are made possible by the existence of these articles on other language Wikipedias, as well as Wikidata entries that are created for other reasons. To this end they’ve been very helpful in identifying gaps in our knowledge of what’s out there to write about.

Right now if you want a list like that one, you can… wait for it… edit a specific configuration page on Wikipedia and add the SPARQL query you want to generate the report for. Not a very satisfying answer, is it. But is it the kind of list you’re generally looking for? Or are you looking for something else? In the long run, I plan on building reports such as these into the CollaborationKit extension that Jan linked to earlier (demo at https://wpx.wmflabs.org/w/index.php/Main_Page). If I know specifically what is needed, that would be helpful.

(There’s also ListeriaBot, run by the world famous Magnus Manske, but I don’t know how that works.)

On February 7, 2017 at 2:18:08 AM, Erika Herzog aka BrillLyle (wp.brilllyle@gmail.com) wrote:

Hi Sandra/Spinster,

Yes! This is exactly what I was envisioning. 

How does the query build this table -- and can it include stubs and other blue linked articles that still need development? Both blue and red links?

I'm sorry I didn't take a more active part in the Community Wishlist Survey. I would have strongly advocated for this. A need for task list automation is something that I have been made aware of only recently via the Black Lunch Table Project. It is a great opportunity to be pro-Wikidata -- to get more people involved in Wikidata from the Wikipedia side, I think. 

Best,

- Erika

On Feb 6, 2017, at 3:46 PM, Sandra Fauconnier <sandra.fauconnier@gmail.com> wrote:

I suggested something with, I think, similar functionality for the Community Wishlist Survey last time; got many supports but it didn’t make the top. Is this what you’d like to see as well, Erika?
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2016_Community_Wishlist_Survey/Categories/Programs_and_events#Article_tracking_tool_for_Wikiprojects.2C_edit-a-thons_and_other_campaigns.2C_based_on_Wikidata

In the Dutch gender gap project on nlwiki we have similarly daunting task lists. Our working group is pro-Wikidata, we use it to inspire our task lists, but I’m sure that appropriate tools would make our workload there much lighter.

Here’s an example of something that comes close - an auto-updating list of important female visual artists who don’t have articles on nlwiki yet, a list generated from Wikidata -  but it would be so great if we could add columns to suggest translations from other language Wikipedias, for instance, and if such lists would be easier to generate and create, also by non-Wikidata-or SPARQL-savvy people.
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikiproject/Gendergap/Kunst/Vrouwelijke_moderne_en_hedendaagse_kunstenaars

Best, Sandra/Spinster



On 5 Feb 2017, at 09:51, Brill Lyle <wp.brilllyle@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Wikidatans,

Inspired by the Zika corpus project at WikiCite 2016,[1] I wanted to see if it was (a) possible and (b) practical to set up an automatically updating table (ideally for use in Wikipedia but pulling from Wikidata) that would allow the Black Lunch Table Project initiative on Wikipedia to automate and customize their Task List -- which is somewhat massive.[2]

Heather Hart from Black Lunch Table holds editathons all over North America,[3] and I think they will be intersectional with some of the other Wikipedia initiatives. So for events in places like North Carolina or New Orleans, it would be helpful for her to be able to pull artists from those communities. And for Art+Feminism in March, it would be helpful for her to be able to pull artists who are female-identifying.

We set up some categories as a way to granulate a possible SPARQL query:

- Wikipedia category:

- Wikimedia Commons category:

Wikidata item:

Right now the task list is approaching 1,000 entries, and I assume the task list will only grow as it is a crowdsourced list. It is understood that obviously not all entrants are notable, and many are at mid-career levels, so even a stub might be stretching it to be on Wikipedia. But a solid percentage are definitely notable and are deserving of pages. 

I was also thinking that this sort of functionality would be helpful for other initiatives -- maybe also Art+Feminism -- so this process might be transferrable for others too.

Goal: To automate the task list process somewhat.

And at minimum would be a good Wikidata project. 

I think that even exploring the possibilities here has been very fruitful and illustrative of Wikidata's functionality for both myself and Heather/Black Lunch Table Project. I think it might also provide very positive outreach for others as well.

Best,

- Erika







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