Hi Loic,

I recently noticed that the history of software is severely underrepresented on Wikidata and there is very little interlinking going on at all, while many items are missing P31. I do think it would be useful to create a Wikidata:<Software project> page to list the various types of software (OS, languages, development environments) and model how to use properties to flesh out such items. I suspect there are several properties that need to be created, such as "Principal developer" or something like that.

I agree however that for a low-threshold Wikidata meetup, the most important thing is to share basic gadgets and knowledge, because there is so much still to be done on outreach in all languages. I noticed for example that Listeria was blocked on Portuguese Wikipedia due to objections in the labelling showing up in list headers. This shows how the basic interface is still such a mystery to so many communities, probably because the basic interface is still so incomplete in those languages.

Jane

On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 7:27 AM, Loic Dachary <loic@dachary.org> wrote:

Hi Sylvain,

On 26/08/2016 11:43, Sylvain Boissel wrote:
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> 2016-08-21 19:06 GMT+02:00 Loic Dachary <loic@dachary.org <mailto:loic@dachary.org>>:
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> When the audience was asked for their preferences, I raised my hand and happily declared "Contributing to the Software and FLOSS projects !". Much to my surprise this was quickly dismissed: "we're only going to learn about tools, we create groups to use and learn about tools, not to work on a specific project". My interest for the Software project is known to both Harmonia Amanda and Ash_Crow, to the extent that I discussed with them my intent to recruit people to participate in the workshop for that particular topic[3], well in advance.
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> And I answered you weeks ago that I plan to organize a fully dedicated workshop on this topic later this year, involving local free software organizations like Parinux or Framasoft.

I remember that, excellent initiative :-) I'm not sure how it explains what happened during the wikiconvention though.

I was connected to #wikidata-fr today and read a conversation on this topic, involving you and Harmonia Amanda (which I will not quote here because I assume this is not a good behavior to quote from channels that are not logged). The general tone was unfriendly and made me feel unwanted as a contributor. It also made me realize that my efforts to bring more French people / organizations to wikidata were mocked and unappreciated.

As a volunteer I value good relationships even more than technical contributions. For this reason I will distance myself from the wikidata French community. I hope to return in the future when a more welcoming context has been established.

Cheers

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Loïc Dachary, Artisan Logiciel Libre

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