Hello, all.
I also agree with Beat. I do not find this list to be overwhelmed with useless content. I appreciate various kinds of calls for contributions and overly strict rules and moderation are unnecessary.
I also agree with Peter in that I don’t think an aggressive stance on the perception of the openness of the end product is necessary. Oftentimes one can make post-prints or other forms of the publications or presentations available in on
an open platform and reading a particular call without nuance can unnecessarily limit research and conversation.
I trust many on this list are able to make informed choices regarding whether something aligns with the “values” and needs of the Wikidata and Wikimedia community at large in regards to both the appropriateness of the venue and in relation
to OA.
Stacy
Stacy Allison-Cassin, PhD
Assistant Professor, Teaching Stream
Faculty of Information
University of Toronto
Stacy Allison-Cassin, PhD
Associate Librarian (on leave)
Department of Student Learning and Academic Success
Scott Library, York University
From:
David McDonell <david@iconicloud.com>
Date: Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 12:44 PM
To: Discussion list for the Wikidata project <wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: [Wikidata] Re: Change list policy for call for papers postings?
👍I agree with Beat’s sentiments. In the grand scheme of things, the noise factor is fairly low.
👊
—David
On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 12:34 PM Estermann Beat <beat.estermann@bfh.ch> wrote:
Dear Jan,
Personally, I haven’t been particularly annoyed by the amount of “spam” to this list.
To me, a “reactive” moderation approach is absolutely fine to me. List admins could just let senders know after the fact that off-topic messages are not welcome.
Senders known to post mainly unrelated stuff can be put on individual moderation.
So, the current practice as you describe it, looks perfect to me.
Cheers,
Beat
From: Jan Ainali <ainali.jan@gmail.com>
Sent: Sonntag, 19. September 2021 18:21
To: Discussion list for the Wikidata project <wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: [Wikidata] Re: Change list policy for call for papers postings?
Beat, do you suggest that all messages should be moderated?
Because right now it is not, and I was hoping that we could keep like that and just ask people to not spam the list (and if they do, put them individually on moderation).
Jan Ainali
Den sön 19 sep. 2021 kl 18:14 skrev Estermann Beat <beat.estermann@bfh.ch>:
Dear all,
If there is an obvious thematic link to the topic of the list, then let the message through; if not, discard it; if in doubt, ask the sender to clarify the link.
This should go for any message sent to the list; there is no need for any specific rules regarding CfPs, event announcements, etc.
My 2 cents,
Beat
From: Nicolas VIGNERON <vigneron.nicolas@gmail.com>
Sent: Sonntag, 19. September 2021 14:09
To: Discussion list for the Wikidata project <wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: [Wikidata] Re: Change list policy for call for papers postings?
Hi,
Maybe not a full ban (or maybe, I wouldn't be against it) but at least some clear rules to avoid these spam.
My 2 cents:
An example of mail that should absolutely be avoided (and not just on this mailing list) is when a similar mail is sent several times in a short timespan. We had almost the same mail sent in 2 days this week ! (not to blame this person in particular, this is not the first time it happens and it's bad communication).
Also, senders should strive to make an effort to tell us how the call is related and/or could benefit to/from Wikidata (very often it's unclear, we shouldn't have to guess why we are receiving these calls).
Cheers, ~nicolas
Le dim. 19 sept. 2021 à 12:57, Luca Martinelli [Sannita] <martinelliluca@gmail.com> a écrit :
Back on point, please.
In regards to calls for papers, do we want to ban them altogether, to
set standards to allow some of them, or leave them be as they are now?
L.
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