[Note: I'm using the last message for a cumulative reply]

Wikidata has 16k active users, 66 admins, 3 'crats, with a pretty active community. This thread has turned into a weird mix of inclusionism vs. deletionism catfight + a request to undelete some contents in a specific project + a series of off-topics. The first part might fit the scope of this list (though is *so* boring), same for the third one. Instead, the second part must be discussed on Wikidata following local policies.

Finally, just to clarify: undeletions by stewards are completely out of our mission and policies (I, for one, would rather intervene to delete ^^), same for the staffers. No chances to overrule a community for such trivial reasons.

Vito

2016-08-01 0:36 GMT+02:00 Info WorldUniversity <info@worlduniversityandschool.org>:

If, as Jimbo Wales' wrote the purpose of Wikipedia involves imagining "a world in which every single person on the planet is given free access to the sum of all human knowledge. That's what we're doing.—Jimbo Wales^[3]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Purpose ...

and the mission of the Wikimedia Foundation includes:

"The mission of the Wikimedia Foundation is to empower and engage people around the world to collect and develop educational content under a free license or in the public domain, and to disseminate it effectively and globally. 

In collaboration with a network of chapters, the Foundation provides the essential infrastructure and an organizational framework for the support and development of multilingual wiki projects and other endeavors which serve this mission. The Foundation will make and keep useful information from its projects available on the Internet free of charge, in perpetuity."

https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Mission_statement

I'd vote as a Wikidata community member for aggregating conferences and courses in all languages with machine and wiki (human) processes. Whether this is best done in Wikidata/Wikibase, or another related platform or elsewhere, may be worth exploring process-wise in a number of different Wikidata forums and discussions. This also seems wise, and relatively easy too I.T.-wise, given shared unfolding agreement among Wikidatans and Wikipedians. 

Friendly regards, Scott

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On Jul 31, 2016 2:18 PM, "Gerard Meijssen" <gerard.meijssen@gmail.com> wrote:

Hoi,

There were lists of Wikimania talks for the Wikimanias. So these items were not standing alone they were in context and THAT is what makes it attractive to have them. We do have Wikimanias as items and on there own they do not provide information. Looking at them from only WIkidata you do not get the picture. Thank <enter your deity> that Magnus has his fantastic tools that allow us to show the value of data.

Thanks,

      GerardM

On 31 July 2016 at 22:47, Stas Malyshev <smalyshev@wikimedia.org> wrote:

Hi!

> Ask yourself what it is about.. It is about the Wikimania talks. What
> was done is removing all the Wikimania talks without any discussion.

I wonder whether Wikidata is really the best platform to host Wikimania
talks and information about it. While I have no doubt these are
excellent talks of great interest to Wiki community, their notability in
the larger world is a more difficult question. Specifically, would we
create an item for every talk even for a major conference (not
considering copyright etc. questions now)? We have a lot of conferences
with much wider attendance than Wikimania happening each year.

Now, Wikimania is of course special - for Wiki movement. And having
*some* repository for this content and knowledge would be completely
appropriate. However, is that repository Wikidata - as purported to be
repository of knowledge of general public interest? I am much less sure
of it. Unless we take the wider mission of accepting data about talks on
any conference of note - which may be possible, but I'm not sure whether
it should be done... If yes, then of course clear policy statement to
that effect may be helpful - so people who are not sure about it like me
would know what the community consensus has arrived to.
--
Stas Malyshev
smalyshev@wikimedia.org

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