This is pretty substantial work, which is both developmentally difficult and will require
a lot of effort to maintain. I wouldn't expect that the work will be inexpensive
either.
-Robert
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From: Scott MacLeod [mailto:worlduniversityandschool@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 8:35 PM
To: Discussion list for the Wikidata project.
Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Is an ecosystem of Wikidatas possible?
Dear David, Denny and Wikidatans,�
Thanks for this email thread.�
I'd like to float a proposal for this ecosystem of Wikidatas vis-a-vis World
University and School, (which is like Wikipedia with MIT OCW), with our plans for a wiki
school or online, Creative Commons' licensed university (with free, online, C.C.,
MIT-centric, university degrees planned) in all 7,105+ languages and 204+ countries. C.C.
WUaS hopes to engage Wikidata, as well.�
I've begun a link on the WUaS, wiki, Subjects' page called "Wikidata
databases and ecosystem," -
http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Subjects - which
can easily become an extensible, wiki, subject page itself (using a modified version of
Wikidata with the WUaS SUBJECT TEMPLATE -
http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/SUBJECT_TEMPLATE) in all languages and countries, to
link all the (small number of) Wikidatas that emerge. (Check out this extensible, WUaS,
wiki SUBJECT TEMPLATE, since it has many of the possible categories mentioned above in
this email thread).�
Here is the beginning, Languages' wiki page at WUaS -
http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Languages - eventually to link all languages, each
as a school or university.�
And here is the beginning Nation States' wiki page at WUaS -
http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Nation_States - eventually to link all nation
states, each as a school or university.�
The wiki, extensible, WUaS all-languages' (7,105 per "Ethnologue") and
all-nation states' (204 per "The Olympics") approach has the merit of
potentially including all emergent Wikidatas in all languages (for an universal translator
-
http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/WUaS_Universal_Translator), and in all nation
states for legal questions, in a way that fully supports the amazing interlingual Wikidata
(which is planned for Wikipedia's 285 languages +), and also, - since many/most of
these Wikidatas may be data about generative shared knowledge - will therefore fit well
with World University and School which is for open, free, wiki, people-to-people teaching
and learning.�
Best regards,�
Scott
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 6:42 AM, David Cuenca <dacuetu(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 1:49 AM, Jane Darnell <jane023(a)gmail.com> wrote:
[...] do you think there is a need for this file to have its own "F" status in
WikiData?
Yes. The reason to have file entities is mainly to have a platform that can store semantic
descriptions of a file. For text searches in classical terms it doesn't matter much,
but to search things like:
- "portrait engravings by artists born in Dordrecht"
- "depictions of Dutch poets born between 1600 and 1700"
For these kind of searches, the only possible way to return relevant results is to store
the information a semantic way as Wikidata does.
As Thomas pointed out, the task to transition to the new method looks somewhat daunting,
luckily here there is not much trouble using bots to automate the task filling out the
properties of the 17M files.
The case of "image promotion" I think it is a different issue that would require
some tagging (maybe "best depiction of") or a simple voting system (like in
youtube, reddit, etc).
It is also important to note that the old issue of sexual content in Commons [1] has
gained *a lot* of traction lately since the last three op-ed's questioning/defending
its suistainability [2] [3]. Basically there is a need that the searches show what you are
looking for and not some other random content. The urgency to present a solution is very
high at the moment, a matter of weeks before starting organizing WikiLoveMonuments with a
cleaned reputation, so I hope that Wikidata can present a proposal soon that I am sure
will be better than this other proposal [4]
Cheers,
Micru
[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2010-05-10/Commo…
[2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-06-12/Op-ed
[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-06-19/Op-ed
[4]
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Image_information
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