At 09:20 09/04/2012, Gerard Meijssen wrote:

Hoi,
First things first ... that is getting Wikidata to work for its initial purposes. Automated updates from elsewhere are nice but introduce a complete new set of issues including reliability.

I agree fist thing first. It seens that in a network centric world the holistic aspects should come first. New projects necessarily come in a context they depend on and they are networked with. They have to be in osmosis with their context; and its possible futures, and therefore designed for it. Foreign (whiich do not have necessarily to be automated) batch updtes are part of their environment as well as users individual updates. The interest of a networked datawikis approach is that requirements can be distributed and therefore Wikidata specifications to be simpler, as long as they are supported by a common generic basis and an interchange protocol. The Dublin Core results from OCLC networking in the late 70s. The W3C did not start in thinking of semantic registries but of a semantic web. The IRI are universal. JSON is open and universal. Denny does not even understand what my own project basics mean, howver we can easily meet on a JSON based protocol. Why, for example, to enter geographic coordinates or linguistic tables manually?

For example, I look in vain for a single table quiving me the name, value, characteristics, and 32x32 bits graphic of every ISO 10646 code poiint. If someone makes it, it should result in an easy batch transfer, supported (both ways) by an authoritative decision. Not by millions of human error prone manual entries. For the time being I did not see discuss the position of the huge amount of new entries not being validated yet. If I enter that ice melts at 5°C, will that be immediately dessiminated or will be in stand-by somewhere until approved?

jfc

Thanks,
Ā Ā Ā Gerard

On 9 April 2012 03:25, JFC Morfin <jefsey@jefsey.com> wrote:

Is there an objection to the concept of, or cooperation with, "datawiki" Wikidata compatible projects? I would define a "datawiki" (as there are databases) as a JSON oriented NoSQL DBMS using an enhanced wiki as a human user I/O interface. This would permit BigData, specialized data, and graph sources to feed Wikidata along their own data philosophy and collection/update policy. I suppose that the main point would be an inter-datawiki interchange protocol (RFC?) matching the datawiki authoritative operators' (the first of them being Wikidata) requirements. I would permit projects at different stages of R&D or with different main purposes in order to cooperate with Wikidata.

jfc

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