This may be a question that has been asked before, but why not make Google site search more prominent and so the wikidata search can go into beta mode?
James
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Today's Topics:
1. Qualifiers, bug fixes, improved search - all in one night!
(Lydia Pintscher)
2. Re: Qualifiers, bug fixes, improved search - all in one
night! (Dario Taraborelli)
3. Re: Qualifiers, bug fixes, improved search - all in one
night! (Daniel Kinzler)
4. Re: Qualifiers, bug fixes, improved search - all in one
night! (Denny Vrandečić)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 23:26:23 +0200
From: Lydia Pintscher <lydia.pintscher@wikimedia.de>
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Subject: [Wikidata-l] Qualifiers, bug fixes, improved search - all in
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Heya folks :)
We have just deployed qualifiers
(http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Notes/Data_model_primer#Qualifiers)
and bug fixes on wikidata.org. Qualifiers! Bug fixes are especially
for Internet Explorer 8. Please let me know how it is working for you
now if you're using IE8 and if there are still any major problems when
using Wikidata with it.
In addition the script we ran on the database to make search
case-insensitive has finished running. This should be another huge
step towards a nice search here. (This change also affects the
autocomplete for items and properties.)
As usual please let me know what you think and tell me if there are any issues.
Cheers
Lydia
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 16:48:08 -0700
From: Dario Taraborelli <dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org>
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Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Qualifiers, bug fixes, improved search - all
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Hi Lydia and all,
great to hear about this deployment, I am particularly excited about qualifier support (as per my previous post).
Since you also mention improvements to search, I was wondering whether you had specific plans for work on search functionality.
Unless I use the Items by title page, if type "Berlin" in a regular search form the item I am actually looking for (Q64) is ranked #34 in the search results (i.e. three clicks away on the "more" link).
I'd be curious to hear the team's thoughts on how to make search more effective and user friendly.
Dario
On Apr 18, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Lydia Pintscher <lydia.pintscher@wikimedia.de> wrote:
> Heya folks :)
>
> We have just deployed qualifiers
> (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Notes/Data_model_primer#Qualifiers)
> and bug fixes on wikidata.org. Qualifiers! Bug fixes are especially
> for Internet Explorer 8. Please let me know how it is working for you
> now if you're using IE8 and if there are still any major problems when
> using Wikidata with it.
>
> In addition the script we ran on the database to make search
> case-insensitive has finished running. This should be another huge
> step towards a nice search here. (This change also affects the
> autocomplete for items and properties.)
>
> As usual please let me know what you think and tell me if there are any issues.
>
>
> Cheers
> Lydia
>
> --
> Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher
> Community Communications for Wikidata
>
> Wikimedia Deutschland e.V.
> Obentrautstr. 72
> 10963 Berlin
> www.wikimedia.de
>
> Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V.
>
> Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg
> unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das
> Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 10:14:47 +0200
From: Daniel Kinzler <daniel.kinzler@wikimedia.de>
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Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Qualifiers, bug fixes, improved search - all
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On 19.04.2013 01:48, Dario Taraborelli wrote:
> Since you also mention improvements to search, I was wondering whether you
> had specific plans for work on search functionality. Unless I use the Items
> by title page, if type "Berlin" in a regular search form the item I am
> actually looking for (Q64) is ranked #34 in the search results (i.e. three
> clicks away on the "more" link).
The "improved search" (read: case-insensitive lookup) applies to ItemByTitle,
the top-right search box suggestions, and autocompletion when entering item
references.
The full text search is as broken as ever. There are two reasons for this:
a) rebuilding the imdex from a dump is simply broken for wikidata. It will cause
raw JSON to be indexed, with horrible results (see bug 45983). This means that a
lot of "old" items (that havn't been edited since mid february) are not indexed
correctly.
b) even for stuff indexed correctly (because it's indexed by mediawiki itself),
the search isn't great, because it's optimized for wikitext, relying on
wikilinks etc for ranking.
I don't see a way to fix this with the current Lucene infrastructure. We have
been experimenting with Solr, but as far as I know, there is no roadmap for
integrating Wikibase specific Solr search with the MediaWiki search page. It's
on the list, but there are no concrete plans yet.
-- daniel
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 11:00:24 +0200
From: Denny Vrandečić <denny.vrandecic@wikimedia.de>
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Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Qualifiers, bug fixes, improved search - all
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Hey Dario,
there is on simple fix we want to apply rather sooner than later, which is
to use the number of language links for ranking. This should work rather
well. The thing is that this is kinda hard to implement in MySQL, I
figured, and that we would need to use something Lucene based (probably
Solr) for that. The Solr extension is quite far, but we currently are not
working on getting it deployed. In short, it's all in the pipes, and it
just takes a bit...
Cheers,
Denny
2013/4/19 Dario Taraborelli <dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org>
> Hi Lydia and all,
>
> great to hear about this deployment, I am particularly excited about
> qualifier support (as per my previous post).
>
> Since you also mention improvements to search, I was wondering whether you
> had specific plans for work on search functionality.
> Unless I use the Items by title page, if type "Berlin" in a regular
> search form the item I am actually looking for (Q64) is ranked #34 in the
> search results (i.e. three clicks away on the "more" link).
>
> I'd be curious to hear the team's thoughts on how to make search more
> effective and user friendly.
>
> Dario
>
> On Apr 18, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Lydia Pintscher <lydia.pintscher@wikimedia.de>
> wrote:
>
> > Heya folks :)
> >
> > We have just deployed qualifiers
> > (
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Notes/Data_model_primer#Qualifiers
> )
> > and bug fixes on wikidata.org. Qualifiers! Bug fixes are especially
> > for Internet Explorer 8. Please let me know how it is working for you
> > now if you're using IE8 and if there are still any major problems when
> > using Wikidata with it.
> >
> > In addition the script we ran on the database to make search
> > case-insensitive has finished running. This should be another huge
> > step towards a nice search here. (This change also affects the
> > autocomplete for items and properties.)
> >
> > As usual please let me know what you think and tell me if there are any
> issues.
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> > Lydia
> >
> > --
> > Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher
> > Community Communications for Wikidata
> >
> > Wikimedia Deutschland e.V.
> > Obentrautstr. 72
> > 10963 Berlin
> > www.wikimedia.de
> >
> > Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V.
> >
> > Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg
> > unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das
> > Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.
> >
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