Hello,

I wanted to get an overview of all the properties used boy the instance Painting (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3305213) for further mapping with the Europeana Data Model.

My initial thought that I would find a representative list at http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Visual_arts/Item_structure but in fact I have found much more properties used in association with painting. So I was wondering whether it would be a good idea to update the template mentioned above with the additional properties.

I think it would be really interesting for GLAMs to have access to to representative templates listing all the properties used for a given type of objects. It would help them to understand Wikidata and to compare it with their own data. I think it would also help mappings activities. I on behalf of Europeana would be happy to help in this task and also facilitate the discussions with GLAMs around Wikidata.

What do you think?

Best wishes,

Valentine

2015-04-04 23:45 GMT+02:00 Stas Malyshev <smalyshev@wikimedia.org>:

Hi!

> For things that actually *are* free text, and not terribly long, a monolongual
> (or, in the future, multilingual) text property could be used. "quote" already
> exists, "abstract" could be added, pending community discussion. Length
> limitations can be adjusted if need be.

Maybe if the need of bigger texts arises we can have separate field
type? Right now the storage model is not very good for storing texts of
non-negligible sizes, especially multilingual ones (x800 languages).
OTOH, we have a type that allows us to use multimedia by integrating
with Commons. So maybe the same idea with using some other wiki -
quotes? sources? for bigger text snippets would work too? Just
brainstorming here :)

> What I was warning against is continuing the misuse of text fields for
> semi-structured or even fully structured data that I have often seen in GLAM
> meta-data. That kind of thing should not be copied to Wikidata.

Right. I think it may be useful here to understand which kinds of text
we're talking about which can't be structured but are big enough to
cause concern. I.e. if it's quotes - we already have wikiquote, right? Etc.

--
Stas Malyshev
smalyshev@wikimedia.org

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