I agree.
While redirects may be useful in the context of normal wiki pages and help pages, they are
counterproductive otherwise and must not be used. Can we not permit / disallow redirects
per-namespace via Wiki configuration?
Purodha
"Gerard Meijssen" <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> writes:
Hoi,
I seriously fail to see how an example how Wikidata can be abused is a good thing.
Redirects are imho seriously stupid. They are utterly Wikipedia centric and they introduce
new things that do not exist.
a redirect page to three pages is also called an disambiguation page.. We do support them.
They are not redirects. When a redirect page refers to an article by another name, it only
takes a label to add the needed link to the subject
Seriously WHY ARE WE EVEN TALKING ABOUT THIS?
Thanks,
GerardM
On 14 October 2014 23:22, James Heald <j.heald(a)ucl.ac.uk> wrote:Creating sitelinks
to redirects:
As I understand it, the classic workaround for this is to
* go to client wiki,
* edit the page temporarily so that it is not a redirect
* add a sitelink
* edit the page again to turn it back into a redirect.
Thus, at least as I understand it, there is no overwhelming technical barrier to creating
a sitelink to a redirect.
Looking back through the archives of Project Chat, it seems to be a perennial thing that
we ought to permit sitelinks to redirects, eg most recently at
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Should_all_occupations_…
which led to Kaldari filing Bugzilla: 71859
But I'm not quite sure exactly what he wants solved, if sitelinks to redirects are
/already/ possible. (Albeit requiring the slightly roundabout process above).
Perhaps what is needed is just a concerted RfC, to confirm once and for all that it is
indeed the community view that such sitelinks are useful, and should be created.
But there are a couple of things it would be nice to have, to confirm the practice:
* A badge (eg the letter R on a red disc) to indicate that the sitelink to language xx is
linking to a redirect, not a primary article.
* On an item, a new property "redirected to", taking another item as its
object, and the identity of the wiki as a qualifier.
After that, we should go out creating this redirects on client wikis en masse, and
site-linking them.
This would solve a huge number of issues we currently have, where wiki A has lots of
little articles, whereas wiki B has the same content all in sections of one article; or
where wiki A and wiki B have chosen different primary items for their treatment of a
field. (For example: the profession 'hatmaker' or the activity
'hatmaking').
Allowing and encouraging sitelinks to redirect is the key to keeping a clean item
structure on Wikidata, while still connecting readers to the most relevant pages in their
preferred alternative languages.
-- James.
On 14/10/2014 21:00, Jane Darnell wrote:nope
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 6:23 PM, Smolenski Nikola
<smolensk@eunet.rs[smolensk@eunet.rs]> wrote:
Citiranje Jane Darnell <jane023@gmail.com[jane023@gmail.com]>:2) There is no way of
making an interwikilink for a redirect, and the
German Wikipedia's "afrikanische Pflaume" is currently a redirect to
"Prunus"
You should still be able to make an interwiki link for a redirect the old
way,
are you not?
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