Hoi,Make sure that you take a Wikidata person with you. It makes a difference. Maarten, Sjoerd, Jane, Edo, me.... they know the project and what we can do. They will help them get their feet wet and not drown in all the technical nitbits.Thanks,GerardMOn 13 August 2015 at 09:56, Arne Wossink <wossink@wikimedia.nl> wrote:Thanks all for the input! I would like to stress again that the first meeting with the CBS has yet to take place, but we will definitely take the views expressed here into account.Best,Arne WossinkProjectleider / Project Lead Wikimedia NederlandTel. +31 (0)6 11000505Postadres: Bezoekadres:Postbus 167 Mariaplaats 33500 AD Utrecht Utrecht2015-08-08 13:10 GMT+02:00 John Erling Blad <jeblad@gmail.com>:There have been some discussions about reuse of statistics with people
from Statistics Norway.[1] They use a format called JSON-stat.[2] A
bunch of census bureaus are starting to use JSON-stat, for example
Statistics Norway, UK’s Office for National Statistics, Statistics
Sweden, Statistics Denmark, Instituto Galego de Estatística, and
Central Statistics Office of Ireland. I've heard about other too.
I have started on some rant at Meta about it, I didn't finish it.[3]
Perhaps more people will join in? ;)
A central problem is that statistics are often produced as a
multidimensional dataset, where our topics are only single indices on
one of the dimensions. We can extract the relevant data, but it is
probably better to make a kind of composite key into the dataset to
identify the relevant stuff about our topic. That key can be stored as
a table-specific statement in Wikidata, and with a little bit of
planning it can be statistics-specific or even bureau-specific.
[1] https://ssb.no/en/
[2] http://json-stat.org/
[3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Import_and_visualize_census_data
On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Joe Filceolaire <filceolaire@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hypercubes and csv flat files belong in commons in my opinion (commons may
> have a different opinion ). That's if we even want to store a copy.
>
> This source data should then be translated into wikidata triples and
> statements and imported into wikidata items.
>
> The statements in wikidata are then used to generate lists and tables and
> graphs and info graphics in wikipedia.
>
> At least that's how I see it
>
> Joe
>
>
> On Thu, 6 Aug 2015 17:00 Jane Darnell <jane023@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have used the CBS website to compile my own statistics for research.
>> Their data is completely available online as far as I know and you can
>> download the queries you run on the fly in .csv file format, or text or
>> excel. They have various data tables depending on what you find interesting
>> and complete tables of historical data is also available. That said, I think
>> any pilot project would need to start with their publications, which are
>> also available online. These can be freely used as sources for statements.
>> Interesting data for Wikidata could be population statistics of major cities
>> per century or employment statistics per city per century and so forth. See
>> CBS.nl
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 5:30 PM, Gerard Meijssen
>> <gerard.meijssen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hoi,
>>> As far as I am concerned, data that is available on the web is fine if
>>> you use data on the web. It makes no difference when the data is to be used
>>> in the context of the WMF.
>>>
>>> When the CBS shares data with us in Wikidata, it makes the data available
>>> in Wikipedia.
>>>
>>> It is why I would like for something small, a pilot project something
>>> where we can build on.
>>> Thanks,
>>> GerardM
>>>
>>> On 6 August 2015 at 17:23, Thad Guidry <thadguidry@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Netherlands Statistics should just post the data on the web...so that
>>>> anyone can use its "Linked Data".
>>>>
>>>> And actually, CSV on the Web is now a reality (no longer a need for
>>>> XBRL)
>>>>
>>>> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-vocabs/2015Jul/0016.html
>>>>
>>>> As DanBri notes in his P.S. at the bottom of the above link..."... the
>>>> ability (in the csv2rdf doc) to map from
>>>>
>>>> rows in a table via templates into RDF triples....is very powerful."
>>>>
>>>> Thad
>>>> +ThadGuidry
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