Hoi,
I seriously fail to see how an example how Wikidata can be abused is a good thing. Redirects are imho seriously stupid. They are utterly Wikipedia centric and they introduce new things that do not exist.

Seriously WHY ARE WE EVEN TALKING ABOUT THIS?
Thanks,
      GerardM

On 14 October 2014 23:22, James Heald <j.heald@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
Creating sitelinks to redirects:

As I understand it, the classic workaround for this is to
*  go to client wiki,
*  edit the page temporarily so that it is not a redirect
*  add a sitelink
*  edit the page again to turn it back into a redirect.

Thus, at least as I understand it, there is no overwhelming technical barrier to creating a sitelink to a redirect.


Looking back through the archives of Project Chat, it seems to be a perennial thing that we ought to permit sitelinks to redirects, eg most recently at

https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Should_all_occupations_be_separate_items_from_their_skills.3F

which led to Kaldari filing Bugzilla: 71859


But I'm not quite sure exactly what he wants solved, if sitelinks to redirects are /already/ possible.  (Albeit requiring the slightly roundabout process above).


Perhaps what is needed is just a concerted RfC, to confirm once and for all that it is indeed the community view that such sitelinks are useful, and should be created.


But there are a couple of things it would be nice to have, to confirm the practice:
*  A badge (eg the letter R on a red disc) to indicate that the sitelink to language xx is linking to a redirect, not a primary article.
*  On an item, a new property "redirected to", taking another item as its object, and the identity of the wiki as a qualifier.


After that, we should go out creating this redirects on client wikis en masse, and site-linking them.

This would solve a huge number of issues we currently have, where wiki A has lots of little articles, whereas wiki B has the same content all in sections of one article; or where wiki A and wiki B have chosen different primary items for their treatment of a field.  (For example: the profession 'hatmaker' or the activity 'hatmaking').


Allowing and encouraging sitelinks to redirect is the key to keeping a clean item structure on Wikidata, while still connecting readers to the most relevant pages in their preferred alternative languages.

  -- James.



On 14/10/2014 21:00, Jane Darnell wrote:
nope

On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 6:23 PM, Smolenski Nikola <smolensk@eunet.rs> wrote:

Citiranje Jane Darnell <jane023@gmail.com>:
2) There is no way of making an interwikilink for a redirect, and the
German Wikipedia's "afrikanische Pflaume" is currently a redirect to
"Prunus"

You should still be able to make an interwiki link for a redirect the old
way,
are you not?



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