Hoi,
I seriously fail to see how an example how Wikidata can be abused is a good
thing. Redirects are imho seriously stupid. They are utterly Wikipedia
centric and they introduce new things that do not exist.
- a redirect page to three pages is also called an disambiguation page..
We do support them. They are not redirects.
- when a redirect page refers to an article by another name, it only
takes a label to add the needed link to the subject
Seriously WHY ARE WE EVEN TALKING ABOUT THIS?
Thanks,
GerardM
On 14 October 2014 23:22, James Heald <j.heald(a)ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
Creating sitelinks to redirects:
As I understand it, the classic workaround for this is to
* go to client wiki,
* edit the page temporarily so that it is not a redirect
* add a sitelink
* edit the page again to turn it back into a redirect.
Thus, at least as I understand it, there is no overwhelming technical
barrier to creating a sitelink to a redirect.
Looking back through the archives of Project Chat, it seems to be a
perennial thing that we ought to permit sitelinks to redirects, eg most
recently at
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Should_
all_occupations_be_separate_items_from_their_skills.3F
which led to Kaldari filing Bugzilla: 71859
But I'm not quite sure exactly what he wants solved, if sitelinks to
redirects are /already/ possible. (Albeit requiring the slightly
roundabout process above).
Perhaps what is needed is just a concerted RfC, to confirm once and for
all that it is indeed the community view that such sitelinks are useful,
and should be created.
But there are a couple of things it would be nice to have, to confirm the
practice:
* A badge (eg the letter R on a red disc) to indicate that the sitelink
to language xx is linking to a redirect, not a primary article.
* On an item, a new property "redirected to", taking another item as its
object, and the identity of the wiki as a qualifier.
After that, we should go out creating this redirects on client wikis en
masse, and site-linking them.
This would solve a huge number of issues we currently have, where wiki A
has lots of little articles, whereas wiki B has the same content all in
sections of one article; or where wiki A and wiki B have chosen different
primary items for their treatment of a field. (For example: the profession
'hatmaker' or the activity 'hatmaking').
Allowing and encouraging sitelinks to redirect is the key to keeping a
clean item structure on Wikidata, while still connecting readers to the
most relevant pages in their preferred alternative languages.
-- James.
On 14/10/2014 21:00, Jane Darnell wrote:
nope
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 6:23 PM, Smolenski Nikola <smolensk(a)eunet.rs>
wrote:
Citiranje Jane Darnell <jane023(a)gmail.com>om>:
2) There is no way of making an interwikilink for
a redirect, and the
German Wikipedia's "afrikanische Pflaume" is currently a redirect to
"Prunus"
You should still be able to make an interwiki link for a redirect the old
way,
are you not?
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