Your note really made me feel so sad. I try to motivate my Wikipedian friends into doing more on Wikidata and each time they react the way you did, with a sentence like "I imagined that the mapping between Wikipedia and Wikidata was ultra-automated." I guess there is something about the "data" word in the same that makes people assume it is technical, or that being "machine-readable" makes it impossible for humans to read and without "bot" knowlege, there is no place for "normal contributors" to help out. 

I am not a bot operator in the sense that I have created any bots. I have slowly started to appreciate the bots that have been built and do use the ones available to me on Wikipedia, Commons, Wikidata, and Wikisource. I also have really learned to appreciate the bot operators who take the time to create them and tend to them through all the iterations of the mediawiki software that seem to change ad infinitum. It's important to remember that these are all volunteers too. Once I tried to follow a very acrimonious conversation on English Wikipedia about "semi-automated edits" as if this was the worst thing that could possibly happen. As someone who tends to leave a lot of typos hanging around, I really appreciate the "semi-automated edits" that correct them. I don't know what "ultra-automated edits" are, but I can assure you there is a warm-blooded human being behind each one of them.

On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 7:47 PM, Ettore RIZZA <ettorerizza@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you for your answer, Jane. I had not thought about the fact that some professions could be better represented than others. I imagined that the mapping between Wikipedia and Wikidata was ultra-automated. It's very interesting.

2017-09-01 19:34 GMT+02:00 Osma Suominen <osma.suominen@helsinki.fi>:
Thank you Jane and everyone else for your speedy responses. Postponing the creation of Wikidata entities for newly created Wikipedia articles that may turn out to be short-lived makes total sense. So we will simply create the corresponding Wikidata entities manually in cases like this.

-Osma


Jane Darnell kirjoitti 01.09.2017 klo 16:36:
Checking the history of that page shows it was recently created. Not sure how the Finns do this but like the Dutch they probably have a bot that creates Wikidata items after a month or so has passed (this avoids creating items for things that get deleted through the "speedy delete" process). You can create the item yourself, or wait another month I guess.
https://fi.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Teuro&action=history

On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 3:32 PM, Osma Suominen <osma.suominen@helsinki.fi <mailto:osma.suominen@helsinki.fi>> wrote:

    Hi,

    This may be a total newbie question, sorry about that!

    While linking YSO places to Wikidata we have stumbled on a few cases
    where there is a Wikipedia article about the place we want to link,
    but that page has no Wikidata link visible. And it seems that
    Wikidata itself does not contain that entity.

    An example is the village Teuro in Tammela, Finland. It has a page
    on the Finnish Wikipedia:
    https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teuro
    <https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teuro>

    But that page has no Wikidata link. A search for "Teuro" in Wikidata
    gives a few hits, but none of them represent the village.

    What's the correct way to correct this? I found this guide:
    https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Linking_Wikipedia_pages
    <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Linking_Wikipedia_pages>

    But I'm not 100% it addresses this exact situation. How did this
    happen in the first place? My naïve understanding was that every
    normal article in Wikipedia would have a corresponding Wikidata
    entity, but apparently that's not entirely true!

    -Osma


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