finance details is you follow the sources).
For the "How intertwined is Google", it's a long and complex story, it goes
back at least to 2005 (Wikipedia probably wouldn't exist today - or in a
drastic different way - if the search engine didn't favour Wikipedia since
As a non-answer, I would say that Wikidata is as intertwined with Google as
any major website is intertwined with Google.
Le ven. 20 sept. 2019 à 10:48, Sebastian Hellmann <
hellmann(a)informatik.uni-leipzig.de> a écrit :
personally I am quite happy that Denny can contribute more to Wikidata and
Wikipedia. No personal criticism there, I read his thesis and I am
impressed by his work and contributions.
I don't want to facilitate any conspiracy theories here, but I am
wondering about where Wikidata is going, especially with respect to Google.
Note that Chrome/Chromium being Open Source with a twist has already
pushed Firefox from the market, but now there is this controversy about
what is being tracked server side by Google Analytics and Client side by
cookies and also the current discussion about Ad Blocker removal from
Maybe somebody could enlighten me about the overall strategy and
1. there was a Knowledge Engine Project which failed, but in principle had
the right idea:
This was aimed to "democratize the discovery of media, news and
information", in particular counter-moving the traffic sink by Google
providing Wikipedia's information in Google Search. Now that there is
Wikidata, this is much better for Google because they can take the CC-0
data as they wish.
2. there are some very widely used terms like "Knowledge Graph" , which
seems to be blocked by Google: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q648625
without a neutral point of
view like the German WP adopted:
3. I was under the impression that Google bought Freebase and then started
Wikidata as a non-threatening model to the data they have in their
Could someone give me some pointers about the financial connections of
Google and Wikimedia (this should be transparent, right?) and also who
pushed the Wikidata movement into life in 2012?
Google was also mentioned in
it reads "Freebase <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freebase>, was
discontinued because of the superiority of Wikidata’s approach and active
community." I know the story as: Google didn't want its competitors to have
the data and the service. Not much of Freebase did end up in Wikidata.
As I said, I don't want to push any opinions in any directions. I am more
asking for more information about the connection of Google to Wikidata
(financially), then Google to WMF and also I am asking about any strategic
advantages for Google in relation to their competition.
Please don't answer with "How great Wikidata is", I already know that and
this is also not in the scope of my "How intertwined is Google with
Wikidata / WMF?" question. Can't mention this enough: also not against
It is a request for better information as I can't seem to find clear
All the best,
Director of Knowledge Integration and Linked Data Technologies (KILT)
at the Institute for Applied Informatics (InfAI) at Leipzig University
Executive Director of the DBpedia Association
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