Not contradictory, merely confusing :)

Whether you should, is the communities decision. I was merely mentioning that I would be happy if there was a bit to do for humans still, because they write better bug reports.

On the other hand, considering we already have over 100k items, it is probably safe to say that there won't be that much to do for humans anyway with regard to creating items for sitelinks, so I guess, if the community so decided, it should be free to start the bots fully.

There will be still sufficiently stuff to do in creating labels and descriptions, and cleaning up the sitelinks which are more complex. I expect that http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Report_interwiki_conflicts is going to become much more lively :) 

I hope this is clearer now. Basically, what I am saying is:
From the development teams point of view, we regard the decision whether to use bots or not to be completely with the community. We don't have any concerns anymore about running bots.

All bot authors are still advised that the current API will, as announced, break in the near future (no, we do not have a time yet).

Cheers,
Denny



2012/11/22 Sven Manguard <svenmanguard@gmail.com>
I'm getting contradictory messages from Wikidata staff then. I mean we already knew that we could, the issue is whether or not we should.

Sven


On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Lydia Pintscher <lydia.pintscher@wikimedia.de> wrote:
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Sven Manguard <svenmanguard@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey there. To those of you that are American, happy Thanksgiving! To those
> of you that are not American, happy "Why can't I reach any of the the
> Americans today, and what's with all this talk of stuffing? day!".
>
> So a while back when Denny gave a talk in Boston about Wikidata, he
> mentioned that he didn't want bots running until after the new API hit and
> we had a chance to make sure that nothing was broken. I reposted that on the
> project chat and we all agreed to stop the bots. That was on November 13.
>
> Today I wake up to find that there is a bot running, and another
> to-be-bot-op is asking if he can run his too. Does anyone know if the new
> API has hit? Denny had no idea when it would. If it has, and nothing is on
> fire, does anyone have any other objections to running bots again?

No it has not. Technically you can run bots. Just don't got too crazy
with them :)

> On a final note, I would ask that the bots stop running at Q99900 and resume
> once we're at Q100001, as Denny did make a point to me in private that day
> that I agree with, that it's great for the milestones in projects (and
> Q100000 is a big one) to be reached by humans and not bots. Donno if that's
> possible to program in though. Gosh, I remember creating things with four
> digits after the Q. I'm feeling old. :D

Heh I think that's something you need to figure out with the people
running the bots.


Cheers
Lydia

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