Hi Laurence,

Thank you for pointing out those other projects. I had forgotten about LinkedWiki, even though I've known about it for a long time. I had forgotten that it could handle maps natively - that's pretty neat.

Thanks also for pointing out Cradle - it's good to see that others have thought in the same direction. (And always amazing to see the number of projects Magnus Manske has been involved in.) I do think that it would be easier to start from scratch rather than trying to modify this project, due to its limitations, including the two big ones you mentioned: no editing of existing data, and not being on-wiki. Still, potentially some of this code could be re-used.

On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 12:44 PM Laurence Parry <greenreaper@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Recently, we have been thinking about

> how to improve the Wikibase interface,

> to get around its limitations - such as

> the lack of on-wiki queries.

One other tool that seems like it would be worth including in the discussion there is LinkedWiki:

https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LinkedWiki

It can also create a table or a map from a SPARQL query, and related Lua functionally.

Regarding your proposal at the end, it reminds me of Cradle, which can use EntitySchemas to define types for creation; e.g. https://furry.wikibase.cloud/tools/cradle/?#/shex/E2

Perhaps it would be worth expanding that project to editing instead? The source is MIT-licensed:

https://github.com/magnusmanske/cradle

I agree it would be useful to have these tools more integrated into the UI itself, rather than as a constellation of clunky-looking add-ons.

--

Laurence 'GreenReaper' Parry - WikiFur.com

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