Hallo Alain, thank you very much for the Interest and the information about Wikisym. I'm a student of Computational Linguistics and writing a Magister Thesis "Datamining for a multilingual Dictionary from the Wikipedia" ("Gewinnung eines multilingualen Wörterbuch aus der mehrsprachigen Wikipedia") at CIS, University of Munich. www.lmu.de www.cis.uni-muenchen.de In fact, I've already solve the problem in another way, but it is interesting for me, as databases, along with datamining, languages, information retrieval, serach engines, is a sphere of my (future) professional interests. Best regards, Tatiana "Desilets, Alain" &lt;Alain.Desilets(a)nrc-cnrc.gc.ca&gt; schrieb: I can't really help you with that, but I am interested in learning more about why you are doing this. I am doing some research on multilingual wiki and the use of wikipedia as a terminological database: Translation the Wiki Way: http://iit-iti.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/publications/nrc-48736_e.html Making WikiMedia resources more useful for translators http://wikimania2007.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proceedings:AD1 Will you be at WikiMania next week? If so, will you be attending the Hacking Day Extra? There are a number of people who will be there who are interested in multilngual related wiki stuff. Best regards, ---- Alain Désilets, National Research Council of Canada Chair, WikiSym 2007 2007 International Symposium on Wikis Wikis at Work in the World: Open, Organic, Participatory Media for the 21st Century http://www.wikisym.org/ws2007/ --------------------------------- From: wiki-research-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wiki-research-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Tatiana Mitrokhina Sent: July 28, 2007 5:52 AM To: wiki-research-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wiki-research-l] Question Hello dear Wikipedians, my name is Tatiana. I've installed German and English wikipedia locally and tried to find out, how the Tables "Page" and "Langlinks" in the database are connected. Do you know, how it functions? I've made some attemts to get at least a title of the article and correcponding titles of it in other languages. So I took a piece of XML dump (German): - <page> <title>Actinium</title> <id>3</id> - <revision> <id>27364210</id> <timestamp>2007-02-04T20:15:45Z</timestamp> - <contributor> <username>PortalBot</username> <id>146374</id> … And the numerous „id“s …didn’t let me to get the result. The matter is: In the table „page“ page_title is Actinium and page_id is „1368“. In the table „langlinks“ ll_from is „3“ In XML <title>Actinium</title> <id>3</id> . As far as I understand from the scheme of the DB table „langlinks“ is connencted only to „page“ table , but how? How page_id= 1368 turns to ll_from=3 and in XML id= 3. I would appreciate your help greatly. Tatiana --------------------------------- Heute schon einen Blick in die Zukunft von E-Mails wagen? Versuchen Sie´s mit dem neuen Yahoo! Mail. _______________________________________________ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l --------------------------------- Alles was der Gesundheit und Entspannung dient.BE A BETTER MEDIZINMANN!

Hi GerardM, [mailto:wiki-research-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of GerardM reading of a MediaWIki text as a start for a translation.. :) Do you have some more information about this topic? How to get MediaWiki text in OmegaT? Regards, Bene

I looked around OmegaW and could not find this feature. Can you give me an idea of where to find it? Thx. Alain ________________________________ From: wiki-research-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wiki-research-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of GerardM Sent: July 29, 2007 1:10 PM To: Research into Wikimedia content and communities Subject: Re: [Wiki-research-l] Question Hoi, It is an option in a menu, what you have to do is provide the URL. Thanks, GerardM http://www.omegat.org/omegat/omegat.html On 7/29/07, DaBuum &lt;dabuum(a)web.de&gt; wrote: Hi GerardM, wiki-research-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wiki-research-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org ] On Behalf Of GerardM does support the reading of a MediaWIki text as a start for a translation.. :) Do you have some more information about this topic? How to get MediaWiki text in OmegaT? Regards, Bene _______________________________________________ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l

BTW: If there are any OmegaWiki people on this list who plan to be at WikiMania, I'd love to meet you guys. Alain ________________________________ From: Desilets, Alain Sent: July 29, 2007 3:50 PM To: 'Research into Wikimedia content and communities' Cc: Sabine Cretella Subject: RE: [Wiki-research-l] Question Thx for the pointers Sabine and Gerard. But I still can't figure out those instructions. When I go to OmegaWiki, what I see is the attached screen shot. Where is the "first drop down menu" in that picture? you say mediawiki Presumably once I have found the "first drop down menu", the rest will be apparent right? ________________________________ From: wiki-research-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wiki-research-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of GerardM Sent: July 29, 2007 2:54 PM To: Research into Wikimedia content and communities Cc: Sabine Cretella Subject: Re: [Wiki-research-l] Question Hoi, I had to ask how it works, and I asked Sabine Cretella who is with the OmegaT project (as well as so many other projects :) ) Thanks, Gerard [8:51:43 PM] Sabine Cretella zegt: you first have to creat a project [8:51:48 PM] Sabine Cretella zegt: once the project is created you say [8:52:11 PM] Sabine Cretella zegt: project/import from mediawiki [8:52:18 PM] Sabine Cretella zegt: and you provide the link On 7/29/07, Desilets, Alain &lt;Alain.Desilets(a)nrc-cnrc.gc.ca&gt; wrote: I looked around OmegaW and could not find this feature. Can you give me an idea of where to find it? Thx. Alain ________________________________ From: wiki-research-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wiki-research-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of GerardM Sent: July 29, 2007 1:10 PM To: Research into Wikimedia content and communities Subject: Re: [Wiki-research-l] Question Hoi, It is an option in a menu, what you have to do is provide the URL. Thanks, GerardM http://www.omegat.org/omegat/omegat.html On 7/29/07, DaBuum &lt;dabuum(a)web.de&gt; wrote: Hi GerardM, wiki-research-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wiki-research-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org ] On Behalf Of GerardM 7:13 PM transtlators, OmegaT does support the reading of a MediaWIki text as a start for a translation.. :) Do you have some more information about this topic? How to get MediaWiki text in OmegaT? Regards, Bene _______________________________________________ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l _______________________________________________ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l

You and I should DEFINITELY talk! My presentation is about evaluating and improving wiki resources (WikiPedia, Wiktionary, OmegaWiki) for the needs of translators. ---- Alain Désilets, National Research Council of Canada Chair, WikiSym 2007 2007 International Symposium on Wikis Wikis at Work in the World: Open, Organic, Participatory Media for the 21st Century http://www.wikisym.org/ws2007/ ________________________________ From: wiki-research-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wiki-research-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of GerardM Sent: July 29, 2007 4:28 PM To: Research into Wikimedia content and communities Cc: Sabine Cretella Subject: Re: [Wiki-research-l] Question Hoi, As an apetizer, http://www.omegawiki.org/Meta:Wikiproteins is what I will talk about ... I only have half an hour for my presentation.. So I think there will be much to talk about outside of the presentation :) I will also talk for an hour about language related stuff.. this is where I will mention OmegaT supporting MediaWiki translations. There are plans to go beyond what is currently on offer; when the API for writing to MediaWiki is available, we want to include this as well. Also we have dreams about recognizing the domain of a text that is to be translated and provide a dictionary for translators optimized for the domain... We have progressed in this direction.. we are not there yet. Thanks, GerardM On 7/29/07, Desilets, Alain &lt;Alain.Desilets(a)nrc-cnrc.gc.ca&gt; wrote: BTW: If there are any OmegaWiki people on this list who plan to be at WikiMania, I'd love to meet you guys. Alain ________________________________ From: Desilets, Alain Sent: July 29, 2007 3:50 PM To: 'Research into Wikimedia content and communities' Cc: Sabine Cretella Subject: RE: [Wiki-research-l] Question Thx for the pointers Sabine and Gerard. But I still can't figure out those instructions. When I go to OmegaWiki, what I see is the attached screen shot. Where is the "first drop down menu" in that picture? Presumably once I have found the "first drop down menu", the rest will be apparent right? ________________________________ From: wiki-research-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wiki-research-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of GerardM Sent: July 29, 2007 2:54 PM To: Research into Wikimedia content and communities Cc: Sabine Cretella Subject: Re: [Wiki-research-l] Question Hoi, I had to ask how it works, and I asked Sabine Cretella who is with the OmegaT project (as well as so many other projects :) ) Thanks, Gerard [8:51:43 PM] Sabine Cretella zegt: you first have to creat a project [8:51:48 PM] Sabine Cretella zegt: once the project is created you say [8:52:11 PM] Sabine Cretella zegt: project/import from mediawiki [8:52:18 PM] Sabine Cretella zegt: and you provide the link On 7/29/07, Desilets, Alain &lt;Alain.Desilets(a)nrc-cnrc.gc.ca&gt; wrote: I looked around OmegaW and could not find this feature. Can you give me an idea of where to find it? Thx. Alain ________________________________ From: wiki-research-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wiki-research-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of GerardM Sent: July 29, 2007 1:10 PM To: Research into Wikimedia content and communities Subject: Re: [Wiki-research-l] Question Hoi, It is an option in a menu, what you have to do is provide the URL. Thanks, GerardM http://www.omegat.org/omegat/omegat.html On 7/29/07, DaBuum &lt;dabuum(a)web.de&gt; wrote: Hi GerardM, [mailto:wiki-research-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org ] On Behalf Of GerardM reading of a MediaWIki text as a start for a translation.. :) Do you have some more information about this topic? How to get MediaWiki text in OmegaT? Regards, Bene _______________________________________________ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l _______________________________________________ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l _______________________________________________ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l