Su-Laine Brodsky, 21/09/20 08:19: What international standards exist to phrase such questions? Denominations commonly used in surveys in one country may be considered horrific or even illegal in others. I see OECD considers it a difficult problem too: ---- 76. Current NSOs collection practices cluster around three broad categories: 1) all OECD countries collect information on some diversity proxies such as country of birth (36 OECD members); 2) a small majority, mostly Eastern European countries, the United Kingdom and Ireland, gather additional information on race and ethnicity (16 OECD members); and 3) only a handful of countries in the Americas and Oceania collect data on indigenous identity (6 OECD members). Diversity statistics are collected from the perspective of either enumerating the size of the relevant populations (typically in the census) or of comparing well-being outcomes across different population groups. 77. While privacy and human rights legislation sometimes prevents or discourages the routine collection of diversity data, the need to improve data availability and quality is being recognised in most countries. Many countries are piloting the addition of new ethnic response options to more accurately reflect the make-up of their societies (e.g. Ireland, the United States), while Belgium is considering allowing collection of race and ethnicity data within the restrictions imposed by the national legal framework. Within the European Statistical System, the inclusion of more detailed migration information is also being considered: The Framework Regulation for Production of European Statistics on Persons and Households European foresees the incorporation of questions on the country of birth of the respondent’s parents in the Labour Force Surveys (from 2020), the European Health Interview Survey, the European Union Statistics on Income and Living Conditions, the Household Budget Surveys and the Community surveys on ICT usage in households and by individuals. The European Union Agency for Fundamental Rights is pursuing its Roma and Travellers Survey to collect comparable data in six selected Member States in 2018 (FRA, 2018[77]). ---- https://www.oecd.org/officialdocuments/publicdisplaydocumentpdf/?cote=SDD/D… Federico _______________________________________________ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l

As pointed out by others, the highly contextualized nature of religion, race, and ethnicity between countries makes it very difficult to impossible to craft questions that are not overly reductive but still somewhat universal. Despite this challenge, understanding diversity in a way that captures these aspects is obviously quite important as they often figure very strongly into power and representation within history, media, etc. In general, if you're looking for large-scale surveys of editors, the Meta category (Category:Editor surveys <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Editor_surveys>) is actually quite complete (same for readers <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Reader_surveys>). In particular, I wrote what little I could find about these topics into this section of our recently published knowledge gaps taxonomy: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2008.12314.pdf#subsubsection.3.1.7 The April 2011 editor survey took the approach of just asking people how they felt they were different from others in the community -- this specific question is not one that I would advocate today (asking people to identify all the ways in which they may be "outsiders" is not particularly welcoming) but this is also probably the style of approach (asking people how well they feel represented within Wikipedia content or editor community) that you'd have to take to get information on ethnicity / race / religion without writing country-specific questions: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Editor_Survey_Report_-_… On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 6:12 AM Stuart A. Yeates &lt;syeates(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: -- Isaac Johnson (he/him/his) -- Research Scientist -- Wikimedia Foundation

Another point not touched on by other commenters is that even if ideal race / ethnicity question(s were developed for every country in the world, users from some countries commonly disguise their country due to censorship in that country, so we there would be a whole class of systematic errors where we asked users the wrong country's question(s). cheers stuart -- ...let us be heard from red core to black sky On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 at 05:00, Isaac Johnson &lt;isaac(a)wikimedia.org&gt; wrote: Community but 2021) will see wrote: impossible that figure Meta this how specific identify people race / https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Editor_Survey_Report_-_… nemowiki(a)gmail.com&gt; considered diversity majority, members); collect are or the migration the and https://www.oecd.org/officialdocuments/publicdisplaydocumentpdf/?cote=SDD/D… Foundation _______________________________________________ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l

Everyone from China and Saudi Arabia (two countries which systematically block wikipedia) are likely to be taking technical measures to disguise their country. That's a lot of people, but I'm not sure how many editors that is. cheers stuart -- ...let us be heard from red core to black sky On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 at 07:01, L.Gelauff &lt;lgelauff(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: data, under demographics. is? I it wrote: wrote: Britain contexts. that editor yet religion, etc. the actually into people / https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Editor_Survey_Report_-_… syeates(a)gmail.com&gt; there different English vs definitions ask broad Ireland, statistics of the prevents to most ethnic within for European of the on the individuals. The Roma Member https://www.oecd.org/officialdocuments/publicdisplaydocumentpdf/?cote=SDD/D… Foundation