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Piotr Konieczny

31 Oct 2012 31 Oct '12

11:08 p.m.

Would anyone have/know where to find any of the following estimates for English Wikipedia, either as a number or as % of the total population of editors (which is known): * of people who edited Wikipedia anonymously * of Wikipedians with a userpage * of Wikipedians who have been registered for less than a year * of Wikipedians who have been registered for less than a month The data does not have to be current. -- Piotr Konieczny "To be defeated and not submit, is victory; to be victorious and rest on one's laurels, is defeat." --Józef Pilsudski

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Federico Leva (Nemo)

31 Oct 31 Oct

11:34 p.m.

Piotr Konieczny, 31/10/2012 23:08:

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Would anyone have/know where to find any of the following estimates for English Wikipedia, either as a number or as % of the total population of editors (which is known):

Not exactly, but:

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* of people who edited Wikipedia anonymously

http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaEN.htm#anonymous sometimes contains the number of IPs which edited, if I remember correctly.

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* of Wikipedians with a userpage

http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaEN.htm#namespaces gives you the number of pages in User: namespace.

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* of Wikipedians who have been registered for less than a year * of Wikipedians who have been registered for less than a month

Registered or made first edit? If the latter, you only need to make differences on column A of http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaEN.htm ; if the former, [[Special:Log/newusers]]? Nemo

WereSpielChequers

1 Nov 1 Nov

12:32 a.m.

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Piotr Konieczny

3:18 a.m.

Good point, I myself have over 10 userpace pages. If this list gives includes subpages, it is certainly an overestimate. It might be possible to figure out an acceptable range (there is probably a correlation factor between number of edits and number of subpages), but it would be guesstimate, really. At the same time, I would think the number of user pages without counting subpages would be simple to obtain from a dump - alas, I never figured out how to handle those (as in, I don't code in anything but wikisyntax...). -- Piotr Konieczny "To be defeated and not submit, is victory; to be victorious and rest on one's laurels, is defeat." --Józef Pilsudski On 10/31/2012 7:32 PM, WereSpielChequers wrote:

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Which language version of Wikipedia are you interested in? If is English then column B in http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaEN.htm gives you new editors by month up to September - just tot up the most recent twelve to get a figure as at the start of October. However I'd add a word of caution re taking the number of pages in userspace as a figure for the number of users with a userpage. Some editors have lots of pages in userspace, it is a good place for drafts, essays, the quirkier userboxes and so forth, most commonly sandboxes but also guestbooks, adoption programs, recall criteria, mentoring programs and so forth. Some editors create new articles straight into mainspace, others have a sandbox and work on one new article at a time, such editors might only have two pages in userspace. But editors who work on several articles in parallel may well have scores of pages in userspace. WSC On 31 October 2012 22:08, Piotr Konieczny <piokon(a)post.pl <mailto:piokon@post.pl>> wrote: Would anyone have/know where to find any of the following estimates for English Wikipedia, either as a number or as % of the total population of editors (which is known): * of people who edited Wikipedia anonymously * of Wikipedians with a userpage * of Wikipedians who have been registered for less than a year * of Wikipedians who have been registered for less than a month The data does not have to be current. -- Piotr Konieczny "To be defeated and not submit, is victory; to be victorious and rest on one's laurels, is defeat." --Józef Pilsudski _______________________________________________ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l _______________________________________________ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l

Piotr Konieczny

3:28 a.m.

On 10/31/2012 6:34 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:

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Piotr Konieczny, 31/10/2012 23:08:

Would anyone have/know where to find any of the following estimates for

* of Wikipedians with a userpage

http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaEN.htm#namespaces gives you the number of pages in User: namespace.

Thanks, I thought i new this page, but I guess I didn't new it well enough. Incidentally, here's a chilling number: the average number of new editors per month in 2011 was 7,700, in 2012 it is forming up to be about 6,500. I don't like this trend at all; I thought the number of new editors was supposed to have stabilized at some point, what I am seeing there suggest a steady decline that continues up to this day. I didn't bother modelling it yet, but if this keeps up, in few years Wikipedia will be a virtual desert. -- Piotr Konieczny "To be defeated and not submit, is victory; to be victorious and rest on one's laurels, is defeat." --Józef Pilsudski

michael w

8:33 p.m.

This issue of sufficient participation does appear of rising concern to wikipedia's survival following our first community peak in ~2007 and has brought my attention back to the project after some years of inactivity. In my opinion, revisions to the interface will be central to eliciting more non-meta edits from casual users who need not be fully educated on the code syntax or policy behind the curtain. Is there an active conversation I've yet to find that is focusing on this issue of editor population over time? The Percentage of Maximum statistic shown here http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaZZ.htm for "active" editors with over 5 and 100 edits this month are ~80% and ~90% respectively down from their peaks in 2007. These stats appear to be trending downward, but not steeply. The article count growth rate stabilized and continues to decline. I don't yet find recent numbers on vandalism. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GROWTH I would also like to see numbers extending this work on strategy from from 2010 to the present : http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Editor_Trends_Study http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Editor_Trends_Study/Results#Editor_reten… -michael waggoner [[en:user:here]] On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Piotr Konieczny <piokon(a)post.pl> wrote:

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On 10/31/2012 6:34 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:

Piotr Konieczny, 31/10/2012 23:08:

Would anyone have/know where to find any of the following estimates for

* of Wikipedians with a userpage

http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/**TablesWikipediaEN.htm#**namespaces<http:… you the number of pages in User: namespace. Thanks, I thought i new this page, but I guess I didn't new it well

enough. Incidentally, here's a chilling number: the average number of new editors per month in 2011 was 7,700, in 2012 it is forming up to be about 6,500. I don't like this trend at all; I thought the number of new editors was supposed to have stabilized at some point, what I am seeing there suggest a steady decline that continues up to this day. I didn't bother modelling it yet, but if this keeps up, in few years Wikipedia will be a virtual desert. -- Piotr Konieczny "To be defeated and not submit, is victory; to be victorious and rest on one's laurels, is defeat." --Józef Pilsudski ______________________________**_________________ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.**wikimedia.org<Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wiki-**research-l<https:/…

John Vandenberg

2 Nov 2 Nov

1:02 a.m.

On Nov 1, 2012 9:28 AM, "Piotr Konieczny" <piokon(a)post.pl> wrote:

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On 10/31/2012 6:34 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > > Piotr Konieczny, 31/10/2012 23:08: >> >> Would anyone have/know where to find any of the following estimates for > > >> * of Wikipedians with a userpage > > > http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaEN.htm#namespaces gives you

the number of pages in User: namespace.

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Thanks, I thought i new this page, but I guess I didn't new it well

enough.

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Incidentally, here's a chilling number: the average number of new editors

per month in 2011 was 7,700, in 2012 it is forming up to be about 6,500. I don't like this trend at all; I thought the number of new editors was. .. Is that new _editors_ or new users? If new users, does it include SUL creations? We should expect SUL account creations to have a peak and then drop sharply once most non-English editors have visited enwp while logged in. -- John

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