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links does not work, yet.
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F.
--- El lun, 17/11/08, Desilets, Alain <Alain.Desilets(a)nrc-cnrc.gc.ca> escribió:
De: Desilets, Alain
<Alain.Desilets(a)nrc-cnrc.gc.ca>
Asunto: RE: [Wiki-research-l] "Regular contributor"
Para: glimmer_phoenix(a)yahoo.es, "Research into Wikimedia content and
communities" <wiki-research-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Fecha: lunes, 17 noviembre, 2008 2:36
Thx. Do you have the URL, or title? I can't find it on
the web.
-----Original Message-----
From: Felipe Ortega [mailto:glimmer_phoenix@yahoo.es]
Sent: November 15, 2008 12:43 PM
To: Research into Wikimedia content and communities;
Desilets, Alain
Subject: RE: [Wiki-research-l] "Regular
contributor"
--- El vie, 14/11/08, Desilets, Alain
<Alain.Desilets(a)nrc-cnrc.gc.ca>
escribió:
> De: Desilets, Alain
<Alain.Desilets(a)nrc-cnrc.gc.ca>
> Asunto: RE: [Wiki-research-l] "Regular
contributor"
> Para: glimmer_phoenix(a)yahoo.es,
"Research
into Wikimedia content and
> communities"
<wiki-research-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Fecha: viernes, 14 noviembre, 2008 2:32
Regarding
this, I have had
> heard different stories about contributors.
>
> I seem to recall one study that concluded that,
while 85% of the
> **edits** are done by a small core of
contributors, if you take a
> random page and select a sentence from it,
this
sentence is more
> likely to be the result of edits by
contributors
from the "long tail"
> than core contributors. I forget the
reference
for that study though.
>
> Does someone on this list have solid information
about this? I think
> it's a fairly crucial piece of
information
that we should have a
clear
handle on as a research community.
Hi, Alain. Yes, the study is by Aaron Schwartz. It was
a base premise
in our last paper at HICSS 08, comparing his
statement
to the theory of
Jimmy Wales about the core of very active users.
Actually, both are right (more or less :) ). If you
look at it from the
"per_user" perspective, the core can be
identified very precisely.
But your question is focused on
"per_article" statistics. It's
logical
to expect so, since the distribution of distinct
authors per article
follows a stepped power-law, and you have a lot
of
articles in the
larger editions. If you pick an article at
random,
chances are that you
will, most probably, pick one with few editors.
Best,
Felipe.
> Alain
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
wiki-research-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> [mailto:wiki-
> > research-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org] On
Behalf Of
> Felipe Ortega
> > Sent: November 13, 2008 5:33 PM
> > To: Research into Wikimedia content and
communities
> > Subject: Re: [Wiki-research-l]
"Regular
> contributor"
> >
> > You have a very similar effect in larger
Wikipedias.
> In those ones,
> > there is no very active, "single
bus"-like
> contributor, but a core of
> > very active users concentrating about 85% of
the total
> number of edits
> > per month.
> >
> > It seems that in these languages, though,
there is a
> generational relay
> > in which new active users jump into the core
to
> substitute those who
> > eventually give up, for any reason. So, the
> concentration becomes
> > stable after a couple of years (aprox.) and
the
> encyclopedia is able to
> > continue growing.
> >
> > Best.
> >
> > F.
> >
> >
> > --- El jue, 23/10/08, Gerard Meijssen
> <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>
> > escribió:
> >
> > > De: Gerard Meijssen
> <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>
> > > Asunto: Re: [Wiki-research-l]
"Regular
> contributor"
> > > Para: "Research into Wikimedia
content and
> communities"
> > >
>
<wiki-research-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> > > Fecha: jueves, 23 octubre, 2008
10:27
Hoi, I missed that this was
> > > the research mailing
> list.. my fault.
> > > Consequently my answer was not
appropriate. With
> this in mind, it is
> > > interesting to learn how the spread is
in
> particularly the smaller
> > > projects. In my opinion there must be a
certain
> amount of productive
> > > people in order to get to a community
that does
> not have one person
> > > who is the "bus factor".
> > >
> > > Having someone who drives the bus is
really
> important. I wonder how
> > > you can point this person out. I think
that
> someone who is just
> > > editing is important but it is not all
that
> builds a community.
> > > Thanks,
> > > GerardM
> > >
> > > On the Volapuk wikipedia Smeira was
really
> important. When he left, I
> > > understand that activity collapsed.
> > >
> > > 2008/10/22 phoebe ayers
> <phoebe.ayers(a)gmail.com>
> > >
> > > > 2008/10/21 Gerard Meijssen
> > > <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > >> Hoi,
> > > >> When you divide people up in
groups,
> when you
> > > single out the ones "most
> > > >> valuable", you in effect
divide the
> > > community. Whatever you base your
> > > >> metrics on, there will be
sound
> arguments to deny
> > > the point of view. When it
> > > >> is about the number of edits,
it is
> clear to the
> > > pure encyclopedistas that
> > > >> most of the policy wonks have
not
> supported what
> > > is the "real" aim of the
> > > >> project.
> > > >>
> > > >> When you label groups of
people, you
> divide them
> > > and it is exactly the
> > > >> egalitarian aspect that makes
the
> community
> > > thrive.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > But this isn't about labeling
people for
> the rest
> > > of time and saying that
> > > > this is how they are defined *on
Wikipedia*
> --
> > > it's about saying how do you
> > > > study people who regularly
contribute to
> Wikipedia,
> > > and as a part of that
> > > > how do you define the group that
you are
> studying,
> > > which is an important
> > > > question for any research study.
> > > >
> > > > Given that it's impossible to
study
> every
> > > contributor to the project in
> > > > every study, and since many
researchers are
> interested
> > > in why people who
> > > > spend a lot of time or effort
working on
> Wikipedia do
> > > so (and what exactly
> > > > it is they do), this is a very
relevant
> question for
> > > this list.
> > > >
> > > > --phoebe
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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