I am suggesting WikiPedia has context-sensitive articles so if you are a kid or a layperson or an expert in a field you get a different introduction. Often the reason people don't read WikiPedia articles is they are too complex at the start.
This needs facilitating by WikiMedia technology.
Thoughts and ideas and possible implementation ideas on this idea are welcomed.
Regards,
Aaron
Dear Aaron,
The policy is already that the introduction should be suitable for a lay reader, but you are correct in that many articles don’t follow the manual of style as they lack introductions that are in clear, jargon free English. What would be useful from the research community is some research on the sorts of barriers and maybe even a way of finding articles whose leads might need rewriting. Or even research on the size of the problem.
Jonathan
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I am suggesting WikiPedia has context-sensitive articles so if you are a kid or a layperson or an expert in a field you get a different introduction. Often the reason people don't read WikiPedia articles is they are too complex at the start.
This needs facilitating by WikiMedia technology.
Thoughts and ideas and possible implementation ideas on this idea are welcomed.
Regards,
Aaron
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On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 at 08:51, Jonathan Cardy werespielchequers@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Aaron,
The policy is already that the introduction should be suitable for a lay reader, but you are correct in that many articles don’t follow the manual of style as they lack introductions that are in clear, jargon free English. What would be useful from the research community is some research on the sorts of barriers and maybe even a way of finding articles whose leads might need rewriting. Or even research on the size of the problem.
I am thinking about kids of various age groups too, maybe working by school type ?
Jonathan
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I am suggesting WikiPedia has context-sensitive articles so if you are a kid or a layperson or an expert in a field you get a different introduction. Often the reason people don't read WikiPedia articles is they are too complex at the start.
This needs facilitating by WikiMedia technology.
Thoughts and ideas and possible implementation ideas on this idea are welcomed.
Regards,
Aaron
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Hi Jonathan,
Can you pop over to the similarly named thread I misspelt this one and the other one has taken prominence.
Thanks,
Aaron
On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 at 20:07, Aaron Gray aaronngray.lists@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 at 08:51, Jonathan Cardy werespielchequers@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Aaron,
The policy is already that the introduction should be suitable for a lay reader, but you are correct in that many articles don’t follow the manual of style as they lack introductions that are in clear, jargon free English. What would be useful from the research community is some research on the sorts of barriers and maybe even a way of finding articles whose leads might need rewriting. Or even research on the size of the problem.
I am thinking about kids of various age groups too, maybe working by school type ?
Jonathan
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From: Wiki-research-l wiki-research-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org on behalf of Aaron Gray aaronngray.lists@gmail.com Sent: Friday, February 8, 2019 9:44 pm To: Research into Wikimedia content and communities Subject: [Wiki-research-l] User type context sensitivity to introdcution section.
I am suggesting WikiPedia has context-sensitive articles so if you are a kid or a layperson or an expert in a field you get a different introduction. Often the reason people don't read WikiPedia articles is they are too complex at the start.
This needs facilitating by WikiMedia technology.
Thoughts and ideas and possible implementation ideas on this idea are welcomed.
Regards,
Aaron
-- Aaron Gray
Independent Open Source Software Engineer, Computer Language Researcher, Information Theorist, and amateur computer scientist. _______________________________________________ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l _______________________________________________ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
-- Aaron Gray
Independent Open Source Software Engineer, Computer Language Researcher, Information Theorist, and amateur computer scientist.
but you are correct in that many articles don’t follow the manual of
style
as they lack introductions that are in clear, jargon free English.
It might be interesting to find out what trade-offs people perceive when writing these introductions. How does one write simply, yet "correct" (particularly not create impressions that are "wrong" from an experts standpoint)? I assume this is hard, and it might be very tempting to lean to the expert’s judgement. It is just an hypothesis, but in case it has something to it, a lot of introductions manage the wicked problem quite well.
Jan
Am Sa., 9. Feb. 2019 um 09:52 Uhr schrieb Jonathan Cardy < werespielchequers@gmail.com>:
Dear Aaron,
The policy is already that the introduction should be suitable for a lay reader, but you are correct in that many articles don’t follow the manual of style as they lack introductions that are in clear, jargon free English. What would be useful from the research community is some research on the sorts of barriers and maybe even a way of finding articles whose leads might need rewriting. Or even research on the size of the problem.
Jonathan
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From: Wiki-research-l wiki-research-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org on behalf of Aaron Gray aaronngray.lists@gmail.com Sent: Friday, February 8, 2019 9:44 pm To: Research into Wikimedia content and communities Subject: [Wiki-research-l] User type context sensitivity to introdcution section.
I am suggesting WikiPedia has context-sensitive articles so if you are a kid or a layperson or an expert in a field you get a different introduction. Often the reason people don't read WikiPedia articles is they are too complex at the start.
This needs facilitating by WikiMedia technology.
Thoughts and ideas and possible implementation ideas on this idea are welcomed.
Regards,
Aaron
-- Aaron Gray
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