With my limited experience both in Zotero and Wiki, two serves, I
reckon, different functions.
The list of Wikipedia:Wikipedia_in_academic_studies is useful to
announce and showcase Wikipedia related research. It is an interesting
place where all Wikipedia-related research are aggregated.
The potential use of Zotero group, depending on the way people can
organise it, may be more expansive. It could include work not related
to Wikipedia. For example, if some contributor think some text provides
some insight into understanding Wikipedia, then s/he as a collaborative
researcher can add the text into the Zotero space, preferably with
enough tags, notes, etc. to explain the connection and motivation to
include that item.
Thus, the goal of Zotero group should be about sharing connections
between texts, both inside Wikipedia related research and between
in-and-out. If the Zotero is not used to provide extra working space
for researchers to share review, comments, discussion, tags, etc., I do
not find an urgent need to build and participate one.
Still, as a user of Zotero, I have to say it is quiet flexible. It
does not hurt if one tries to organise the Wikipedia related research
and then export them immediately via a Wiki-ready template (built
inside). It is also useful for researcher to compile a subset of list
to be helpful (say, any research that involves the term "collaboration",
etc.). Therefore, I can foresee the benefits using Zotero, but I also
agree that the list of Wikipedia:Wikipedia_in_academic_studies as a
place to show case should be maintained at all time. Whether which one
is master list and which one is slave list depends on the need for
The above is just my own personal experience and suggestion. UAYOR ;-)
Piotr Konieczny wrote:
Michael Ekstrand wrote:
Cormac Lawler wrote:
Thanks for this Michael,
2009/11/2 Michael Ekstrand <ekstrand(a)cs.umn.edu
At WikiSym this year, some of us started a Zotero group for collecting
research papers about Wikipedia. It's intended to serve a purpose
similar to that of the "Wikipedia in academic studies" page, but in
Zotero so that it integrates well with the research process. Membership
is currently open to all, and anyone can add resources.
Can you give a link?
Here it is:
Can you explain how Zotero integrates well with the research process?
Why not focus on expanding
I have not used Zotero myself; I see it is a Firefox extension
) - nifty, but it doesn't work with
my SeaMonkey (nor with Chrome, Opera, and so on). Also, the entries are
not sortable, and seem listed only by name of the article.
Personally, I am not fond of off wiki projects, as while we can be
pretty certain Wikipedia will be there in few years, who can quarantee
Zotero will not go under and disappear (somebody has to keep paying for
domain, for example...)?
WP:ACST is also sortable by publication name, author name, venue of
publication, year, has expandable abstracts, links - all on the main
page (and being a wiki, we can keep improving it).
Further, forking into a new database makes people chose where to
contribute. There are several other databases already (linked at the
bottom of WP:ACST); neither is complete, some are inactive.
I think we should focus on one of them, try to make it as complete as
possible, and ignore the others.
And I think WP:ACST being in a wiki format and on Wikipedia is the best
to focus on, and it seems to me that it has a better functionality than
Please note I am very, very appreciative of any efforts to improve our
knowledge of the current state of Wikipedia research. It is just that I
am afraid that forking into new databases is less optimal than focusing
on one of them (and if we all reach consensus that we should abandon
ACST and migrate to Zotero, fine - but let's agree on one database first).