Hi James,

The data you show in that table indicates that there is a negative correlation between active editors and mobile pageviews. Correlation does not imply causation, but I for one find it difficult to edit text using a phone and I would guess that the same is true for other potential or former contributors.

A tablet might work better for editing, and one of the unfortunate consequences of switching the mobile view to tablet is that tablet views and edits are now mixed in with phone views and edits.

Regarding my other point about how Wikipedia culture has become more hostile over the years, I suggest viewing the presentation by WMF's Jonathan Morgan in which he discusses this issue [1] [2] [3].

Pine

[1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:TA3M_July_2014_J-Mo_Wikimedia_presentation_part_1_small.ogv
[2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:TA3M_July_2014_J-Mo_Wikimedia_presentation_part_2_small.ogv
[3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:TA3M_July_2014_J-Mo_Wikimedia_presentation_part_3_small.ogv

On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 12:24 AM, James Salsman <jsalsman@gmail.com> wrote:

Oliver Keyes wrote:
> ...
> Mobile now makes up 30% of our page views and its
> users display divergent behavioural patterns; you
> don't think a group that makes up 30% of pageviews
> is a user group that is a 'big deal' for engagement?

For the English Wikipedia:

>100 Million
active mobile
Date editors Change pageviews Change
July 2009 3,795 -7%
July 2010 3,517 -7% 278
July 2011 3,374 -4% 571 105%
July 2012 3,360 0% 1,210 112%
July 2013 3,135 -7% 1,880 55%
July 2014 3,037 -3% 3,010 60%

Where is the evidence that mobile use has any influence on editor engagement?

If you want to predict how long editors will stay, compare how many
new articles they were successfully creating in their first 500 edits
in 2004-2006 versus 2008-present.

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