Solved a slight problem with permissions.
It should work now, sorry.
Best,
F
--- El lun, 17/11/08, Felipe Ortega <glimmer_phoenix(a)yahoo.es> escribió:
De: Felipe Ortega <glimmer_phoenix(a)yahoo.es>
Asunto: Re: [Wiki-research-l] "Regular contributor"
Para: "Research into Wikimedia content and communities"
<wiki-research-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>rg>, "Desilets, Alain"
<Alain.Desilets(a)nrc-cnrc.gc.ca>
Fecha: lunes, 17 noviembre, 2008 3:02
Sure, we have started a great migration of our website, so
the old
links does not work, yet.
You can grab it from here:
http://gsyc.es/~jfelipe/tmp/Ineq_Wikipedia.pdf
Best.
F.
--- El lun, 17/11/08, Desilets, Alain
<Alain.Desilets(a)nrc-cnrc.gc.ca> escribió:
De: Desilets, Alain
<Alain.Desilets(a)nrc-cnrc.gc.ca>
Asunto: RE: [Wiki-research-l] "Regular
contributor"
Para: glimmer_phoenix(a)yahoo.es, "Research
into
Wikimedia content and communities"
<wiki-research-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Fecha: lunes, 17 noviembre, 2008 2:36
Thx. Do you have the URL, or title? I can't find
it on
the web.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Felipe Ortega
[mailto:glimmer_phoenix@yahoo.es]
> Sent: November 15, 2008 12:43 PM
> To: Research into Wikimedia content and
communities;
> Desilets, Alain
> > Subject: RE: [Wiki-research-l] "Regular
> contributor"
> >
> > --- El vie, 14/11/08, Desilets, Alain
> <Alain.Desilets(a)nrc-cnrc.gc.ca>
> > escribió:
> >
> >
De: Desilets, Alain
>
<Alain.Desilets(a)nrc-cnrc.gc.ca>
> >
Asunto: RE: [Wiki-research-l]
"Regular
> contributor"
> > > Para: glimmer_phoenix(a)yahoo.es,
"Research
into Wikimedia content and
> communities"
<wiki-research-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> > Fecha: viernes, 14 noviembre, 2008 2:32
Regarding
this, I have had
> > heard different stories about contributors.
> >
> > I seem to recall one study that concluded
that,
while 85% of the
> **edits** are done by a small core of
contributors, if you take a
> > random page and select a sentence from it,
this
sentence is more
> > likely to be the result of edits by
contributors
from the "long tail"
> > than core contributors. I forget the
reference
for that study though.
> >
> > Does someone on this list have solid
information
about this? I think
> > it's a fairly crucial piece of
information
that we should have a
> clear
> > handle on as a research community.
> >
>
> Hi, Alain. Yes, the study is by Aaron Schwartz.
It was
a base premise
> in our last paper at HICSS 08, comparing his
statement
to the theory of
> Jimmy Wales about the core of very active users.
>
> Actually, both are right (more or less :) ). If
you
look at it from the
"per_user" perspective, the core can be
identified very precisely.
But your question is focused on
"per_article" statistics. It's
logical
to expect so, since the distribution of distinct
authors per article
> follows a stepped power-law, and you have a lot
of
articles in the
> larger editions. If you pick an article at
random,
chances are that you
will, most probably, pick one with few editors.
Best,
Felipe.
> Alain
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
wiki-research-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> > [mailto:wiki-
> > > research-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org]
On
Behalf Of
> Felipe Ortega
> > Sent: November 13, 2008 5:33 PM
> > To: Research into Wikimedia content and
communities
> > > Subject: Re: [Wiki-research-l]
"Regular
> > contributor"
> > >
> > > You have a very similar effect in
larger
Wikipedias.
> In those ones,
> > there is no very active, "single
bus"-like
> > contributor, but a core of
> > > very active users concentrating about
85% of
the total
> > number of edits
> > > per month.
> > >
> > > It seems that in these languages,
though,
there is a
> > generational relay
> > > in which new active users jump into the
core
to
> > substitute those who
> > > eventually give up, for any reason. So,
the
> > concentration becomes
> > > stable after a couple of years (aprox.)
and
the
> encyclopedia is able to
> > continue growing.
> >
> > Best.
> >
> > F.
> >
> >
> > --- El jue, 23/10/08, Gerard Meijssen
> <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>
> > escribió:
> >
> > > De: Gerard Meijssen
> <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>
> > > Asunto: Re: [Wiki-research-l]
"Regular
> > contributor"
> > > > Para: "Research into
Wikimedia
content and
> communities"
> > >
<wiki-research-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> > > > Fecha: jueves, 23 octubre, 2008
10:27
Hoi, I missed that this was
> > > the research mailing
> list.. my fault.
> > > Consequently my answer was not
appropriate. With
> > this in mind, it is
> > > > interesting to learn how the
spread is
in
> > particularly the smaller
> > > > projects. In my opinion there must
be a
certain
> > amount of productive
> > > > people in order to get to a
community
that does
> > not have one person
> > > > who is the "bus factor".
> > > >
> > > > Having someone who drives the bus
is
really
> > important. I wonder how
> > > > you can point this person out. I
think
that
> > someone who is just
> > > > editing is important but it is not
all
that
> > builds a community.
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > GerardM
> > > >
> > > > On the Volapuk wikipedia Smeira
was
really
> > important. When he left, I
> > > > understand that activity
collapsed.
> > > >
> > > > 2008/10/22 phoebe ayers
> > <phoebe.ayers(a)gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > > > 2008/10/21 Gerard Meijssen
> > > > <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hoi,
> > > > >> When you divide people up
in
groups,
> > when you
> > > > single out the ones "most
> > > > >> valuable", you in
effect
divide the
> > > community. Whatever you base your
> > > >> metrics on, there will be
sound
> > arguments to deny
> > > > the point of view. When it
> > > > >> is about the number of
edits,
it is
> > clear to the
> > > > pure encyclopedistas that
> > > > >> most of the policy wonks
have
not
> supported what
> > > is the "real" aim of the
> > > >> project.
> > > >>
> > > >> When you label groups of
people, you
> > divide them
> > > > and it is exactly the
> > > > >> egalitarian aspect that
makes
the
> > community
> > > > thrive.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > But this isn't about
labeling
people for
> > the rest
> > > > of time and saying that
> > > > > this is how they are defined
*on
Wikipedia*
> --
> > > it's about saying how do you
> > > > study people who regularly
contribute to
> > Wikipedia,
> > > > and as a part of that
> > > > > how do you define the group
that
you are
> > studying,
> > > > which is an important
> > > > > question for any research
study.
> > > > >
> > > > > Given that it's
impossible to
study
> every
> > > contributor to the project in
> > > > every study, and since many
researchers are
> interested
> > > in why people who
> > > > spend a lot of time or effort
working on
> > Wikipedia do
> > > > so (and what exactly
> > > > > it is they do), this is a
very
relevant
> > question for
> > > > this list.
> > > > >
> > > > > --phoebe
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> >
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