Thanks, John. It's great to get an Australian perspective on the ERA ranking.
You've definitely confirmed that it's not very useful for our purposes here. So,
I'll pass on the CSV copy of the 2012 version :-(
~ Chitu
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Sujet: Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wikipedia literature review - include or exclude conference
articles
De : John Vandenberg <jayvdb(a)gmail.com>
Pour : Research into Wikimedia content and communities
<wiki-research-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Date : Lun. 21 Mars 2011 23:06:06 EST
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Chitu Okoli<Chitu.Okoli(a)concordia.ca> wrote:
...
* A-ranked conferences in Information and Computing Sciences from
http://lamp.infosys.deakin.edu.au/era/?page=cforsel10: This is the most
exhaustive journal ranking exercise I have ever found anywhere.
With regards to John Lamps journal list, it is a copy of the *first*
ERA journal list.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excellence_in_Research_for_Australia
There is a second ERA journal list being compiled for 2012.
Submissions closed yesterday, and review of ranking is now underway.
The journal list can be browsed via the website.
https://roci.arc.gov.au/
However there is no publicly download-able dataset available yet.
If anyone wants a copy of the second ERA journal list in xml or csv, I
can provide it offlist.
Public consultation about the ranking is open until April 4.
Unfortunately, I like you have serious questions about the face validity of
these rankings; I think they heavily overrate many conferences in my own
field of information systems; I assume the same is true with other fields
that I don't know so well. (My primary reservation with conference or
journal rankings by professors is that I strongly suspect that one of the
main criteria for their rankings is whether or not they have published in
that outlet before.) Unfortunately, I don't know of anything that approaches
this ranking in comprehensiveness.
One important point to note in regards to conferences in that journal
list is that conferences are only ranked for the disciplines of
* 08 Information and computer science
http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@.nsf/Latestproducts/4C3249439D3285D6CA25…
* 09 Engineering
http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@.nsf/Latestproducts/050A7395E86A9719CA25…
* 12 Built environment and design
http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@.nsf/Latestproducts/B20002D4CAD6966DCA25…
IMO the ranked conference list was useless in the 2010 ERA process and results.
I've yet to see any improvement in this area for the 2012 ERA.
--
John Vandenberg
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