Perhaps it depends on what part of the encyclopedia? Has anyone
attempted to characterize how the editing environment varies with
different subject matter? I often run across descriptions that don't
comport with either my experience, or that of people I've interviewed,
but it's hard to tell precisely why. I've encountered quite different
beliefs about what the en.wikipedia community is like, even among people
who to me seem to otherwise have a similar background.

Entirely anecdotally, areas of interest seem to be one correlated
factor. For example, writing an article on an archaeological site (one
thing I've mentored new editors in doing) is by and large trouble-free
and friendly, in my experience. But some other areas are not. I haven't
attempted to characterize that factor in any detail.

-Mark

WereSpielChequers <werespielchequers@gmail.com> writes:

> We have problems, I don't dispute that. But "ugly and bitter as 4chan"? That has to be an exaggeration.
>
> Regards
>
> Jonathan Cardy
>
>
>> On 13 Dec 2014, at 01:03, Andrew Lih <andrew.lih@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I certainly hope you're right Sydney. What a horrible mess.
>>
>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Sydney Poore <sydney.poore@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I think feminists, especially those who take an interest in STEM, will pass this article around.
>>>
>>> Sydney
>>>
>>>> On Dec 12, 2014 5:35 PM, "Andrew Lih" <andrew.lih@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> It's a good piece, but honestly I think only the dedicated tech reader will make it through the entire story. There's a lot of jargon and insider intrigue such that I could imagine most people never making past the typewriter barf of "BLP, AGF, NOR" :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 5:26 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak <darekj@alk.edu.pl> wrote:
>>>>> While I agree that the article is overly negative (likely because of the individual experience), I think it still points to an important problem. I don't perceive this article as really problematic in terms of image. Maybe naively, I imagine that people will not stop donating because the community is not ideal.
>>>>>
>>>>> pundit
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Kerry Raymond <kerry.raymond@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> There’s a saying that everyone likes to eat sausages but nobody likes to know how they are made.  It is not good to have negative publicity like that during the annual donation campaign (irrespective of the motivations of the journalist and/or the rights/wrongs of the issue being reported, neither of which I intend to debate here). As a donation-funded organisation, public perception matters a lot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kerry
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>

>>>>>> From: Jonathan Morgan [mailto:jmorgan@wikimedia.org]
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, 13 December 2014 6:43 AM
>>>>>> To: Research into Wikimedia content and communities
>>>>>> Cc: Kerry Raymond
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Wiki-research-l] commentary on Wikipedia's community behaviour (Aaron gets a quote)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I mostly agree. On one hand, it's always nice to see a detailed description of how wiki-sausage gets made in a major venue. On the other, this journalist clearly has a personal axe to grind, and used his bully pulpit to grind it in public.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - J
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 1:39 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemowiki@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1000th addition to the inconsequential rant genre.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nemo
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>> __________________________
>>>>> prof. dr hab. Dariusz Jemielniak
>>>>> kierownik katedry Zarządzania Międzynarodowego
>>>>> i centrum badawczego CROW
>>>>> Akademia Leona Koźmińskiego
>>>>> http://www.crow.alk.edu.pl
>>>>>
>>>>> członek Akademii Młodych Uczonych Polskiej Akademii Nauk
>>>>> członek Komitetu Polityki Naukowej MNiSW
>>>>>
>>>>> Wyszła pierwsza na świecie etnografia Wikipedii "Common Knowledge? An Ethnography of Wikipedia" (2014, Stanford University Press) mojego autorstwa http://www.sup.org/book.cgi?id=24010
>>>>>
>>>>> Recenzje
>>>>> Forbes: http://www.forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx.shtml
>>>>> Pacific Standard: http://www.psmag.com/navigation/books-and-culture/killed-wikipedia-93777/
>>>>> Motherboard: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/an-ethnography-of-wikipedia
>>>>> The Wikipedian: http://thewikipedian.net/2014/10/10/dariusz-jemielniak-common-knowledge
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