On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:57 AM, Ward Cunningham <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ward@c2.com" target="_blank">ward@c2.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>I wonder if a better place to innovate might be in the conduct of research, rather than the reporting, review and publication of research?</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>
+1*</div><div><br></div><div>Regarding the existing conversation, if we want a journal, we need to ask what the purpose is.</div><div><br></div><div>I&#39;d highly recommend Jason Priem&#39;s notion of the &quot;decoupled journal&quot; [1][2]. Jason points out that journals have been used for four main purposes, historically:</div>
<div><ol><li>Registration</li><li>Archiving</li><li>Dissemination</li><li>Certification</li></ol><div>Decoupling these functions is the way forward for scholarly communication. And it&#39;s already been happening -- with ArXiV, SSRN, Math Overflow, ... and new ways of measuring research impact [3]. So which function(s) matter most to us?</div>
<div><br></div><div>We can ask:</div><div><br></div><div>(1) What can wikis do for the registration, archiving, and/or dissemination functions, better than existing technologies?</div><div><br></div><div>(2) How can wikis contribute to altmetrics [3] used for certification functions?</div>
<div><br></div><div>(3) How can we as a community surface the most interesting and powerful research? What technologies do we need? What social habits do we need? </div><div><br></div><div>(4) And, finally, how can our answers to #3 contribute to the certification we value? (Prestige, publications counting for tenure, ...)</div>
<div><br></div><div>I think rather than trying to create a high profile, high impact traditional journal, if we focused on these and similar questions, we would both move wiki research forward, and drive scientific communication itself forward.</div>
<div><br></div><div>-Jodi</div><div><br></div><div>* of course, reporting and doing research aren&#39;t an either/or -- they&#39;re closely related and one drives the other</div><div><br></div><div>[1] Jason Priem at Purdue:</div>
<div>video<br><a href="http://youtu.be/OM22JuiWYgE">http://youtu.be/OM22JuiWYgE</a></div><div>slides</div><div><a href="https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=ddfg787c_362f465q2g5">https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=ddfg787c_362f465q2g5</a></div>
<div>I&#39;ve written a short summary here:</div><div><a href="http://jodischneider.com/blog/2012/11/04/altmetrics-can-help-surface-quality-content-jason-priem-on-the-decoupled-journal-as-the-achievable-future-of-scholarly-communication/">http://jodischneider.com/blog/2012/11/04/altmetrics-can-help-surface-quality-content-jason-priem-on-the-decoupled-journal-as-the-achievable-future-of-scholarly-communication/</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>[2] Also a draft article called &quot;Decoupling the scholarly journal&quot; by Jason Priem and Bradley M. Hemminger, under review for the Frontiers in Computational Neuroscience special issue &quot;Beyond open access: visions for open evaluation of scientific papers by post-publication peer review&quot;</div>
<div><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xDOy9GXXrUFc9TUIR2C470DTau8JEgZ9k-SMNIx5pb8/edit?hl=en_US&amp;amp;authkey=CMeCqOYD">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xDOy9GXXrUFc9TUIR2C470DTau8JEgZ9k-SMNIx5pb8/edit?hl=en_US&amp;amp;authkey=CMeCqOYD</a></div>
<div><br></div></div><div>[3] <a href="http://altmetrics.org">http://altmetrics.org</a></div><div><br></div></div>