Thanks, Sydney and Pine.

This is timely, as Resources is currently re-vamping their instructions for grant proposals (including research-focused grants). So it's a good time to hammer out our policy and process here.

Max: if you're willing to ping me off-list and relate some of the details of your conversation, that will help me follow up on the particular issue you're facing right now.

I want this to be clear and easy for grantees going forward—if WMF is funding research, we should be prepared to support the dissemination of that research in a way that aligns with our values. In the future, I would like to see grantees budget anticipated OA fees into their requests, and a process for vetting this during the proposal review period. 

I know there has been some conversation between Research and Resources around this issue in the past, but I don't know if there were decisions made... more likely I'll need to start it back up again. We're all still working out the kinks in the OA policy (even staff researchers are trying to understand the ramifications for our work). 

I'll make sure to notify this list when I learn more.

Jonathan


On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Sydney Poore <sydney.poore@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Max,

This issue was discussed in the context of a paper about Wikipedia working with medical students in the classroom.

See the talk page and endorsements for the discussion that led to the grant being approved. .

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:PEG/bluerasberry/open_access_release_funding_for_paper_on_Wikipedia_in_classroom

Sydney

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On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 9:49 PM, Maximilian Klein <isalix@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello All,

As you might know WMF has an Open Access Policy that requires all work that they fund to be Open Access[1]. A strange consequence of this policy, that I recently ran into, is that it requires researchers funded by grants to publish OA -- but without providing any funding to do so. That is, I recently completed an Individual Engagement Grant (IEG), part of whose scope was explicitly to write a paper about the work[2], and when I wrote to WMF to acquire funds for OA publishing, they confirmed that the paper was under the OA mandate but indicated that funds were not available to pay for OA publishing.

Has anyone else use WMF's Open Access Policy?  What was your experience?

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