James and Travis, you bring up a point that we have struggled back and forth with for
several months. We really, really would like to include conference articles, but we just
can't see how we could handle many more articles than what we've got now.
We've been working on and off on this project for over two years now. (You can find
works in progress at the link at the bottom to my website.) We'd like to get it done
eventually, and we can only handle so many articles.
We considered including top-tier conferences, but the question is, what is a "top
conference"? In trying to answer this, we looked at a couple of sources:
* Top Tier and 2nd tier conferences from
http://webdocs.cs.ualberta.ca/~zaiane/htmldocs/ConfRanking.html
* A-ranked conferences in Information and Computing Sciences from
http://lamp.infosys.deakin.edu.au/era/?page=cforsel10
* We also considered including all WikiSym articles on Wikipedia
We identified which of the 1,500 conference papers from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Moudy83/conference_papers were "top
conferences" by those definitions, and we found over 400. On top of our 600 journal
articles and doctoral theses, we think 1,000 papers is just too much for us to handle.
If we could somehow narrow it down to 100 relevant conference papers, we could add that
in, but no more. However, how do we select which conferences are "must includes"
while unfortunately leaving out the rest? We just don't know how to do this in a
non-arbitrary, objective manner that would truly identify the top 100 conference papers on
Wikipedia that contribute to scholarly knowledge.
Any ideas on how to do this would be very much appreciated.
Regards,
Chitu
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Sujet: Re: [Wiki-research-l] Request to verify articles for Wikipedia literature
review
De : Travis Kriplean <travis(a)cs.washington.edu>
Pour : Research into Wikimedia content and communities
<wiki-research-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Date : 14/03/2011 3:46 PM
As an HCI/CS researcher who has published at top
peer-reviewed conferences about Wikipedia, but not journals, I'd like to echo
James' statements. Journals are not the norm in CS/HCI research. Knowledge is shared
through conferences, not journals.
On 3/14/11 11:32 AM, James Howison wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> Great project; massive but will be much appreciated. We did something similar for
empirical studies of Open Source, recently accepted at ACM Computing Surveys (PDF
pre-print available here [1], article not in print until 2012 (!! that's another email
entirely, bah))
>
> I recognize the need to cut down the number of articles for review, we reviewed
around 600 and that was a multi-year effort. We did that mainly by excluding conceptual
(hence empirical) or passing reference articles (ie we did a two-step filter on many more
articles), but were forced to only do journal articles for updates during the (long)
revision process. I regret that necessity, it decreases the utility of the work.
>
> Given the publication venues of choice for many academics in this community I do
wonder if you aren't shooting yourself in the foot by excluding peer-reviewed
conferences and restricting to journals. Personally I'd rather read a review that
included the top journals and top conferences than one that included all journals. Or
even rather read a review over a shorter time period that included publications over
journals and conferences, or on more specified topics. The interesting question is,
"what do we know about wikipedia" not "what did we publish in journals
about wikipedia". In particular you will find you have systematically excluded the
contribution of HCI authors.
>
> Given the commendable and massive effort you are providing (and your approach to
coverage below is really interesting), getting that wrong at the outset seems a shame.
>
> Best regards,
> James Howison
>
> [1] Crowston, K., Wei, K., Howison, J., and Wiggins, A. (2012). Free (libre) open
source software development: What we know and what we do not know. ACM Computing Surveys,
44(2):
>
http://floss.syr.edu/content/freelibre-open-source-software-development-wha…
>
>
> On Mar 14, 2011, at 13:58, Chitu Okoli wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> We are a research group conducting a systematic literature review on
Wikipedia-related peer-reviewed academic studies published in the English language.
(Although there are many excellent studies in other languages, we unfortunately do not
have the resources to systematically review these at any kind of acceptable scholarly
level. Also, our study is about Wikipedia only, not about other Wikimedia Foundation
projects. However, we do include studies about other language Wikipedias, as long as the
studies are published in English.) We have completed a search using many major databases
of scholarly research. In a separate thread, we will also talk about research questions
related to our review.
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> Chitu Okoli, Concordia University, Montreal, Canada
>>
(
http://chitu.okoli.org/professional/open-content/wikipedia-and-open-content…)
>> Arto Lanamäki, University of Agder, Kristiansand, Norway
>> Mohamad Mehdi, Concordia University, Montreal, Canada
>> Mostafa Mesgari, Concordia University, Montreal, Canada