Let's do it.
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 3:04 PM Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Leila, can we discuss this off list?
Thanks,
Pine
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https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 9:29 PM Leila Zia <leila(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 1:56 PM Pine W
<wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Leila, I believe that I asked for more information regarding Heifeng's
work.
You stated
"However, if you're planning to send surveys or messages to them,
sending them barnstars, or otherwise manipulating their on-wiki
experience, that would be problematic."
and I'm suggesting that you enter from a question angle, please.
There has
been discussion on English Wikipedia regarding volunteers
being unhappy with the interventions or proposed interventions of
researchers. I think that asking about the nature of Haifeng's research
is
legitimate, and I tried to provide some examples
of possible types of
research.
Please check your email. There was no question there in the part
related to this discussion. Also, even if there was a question posed,
I highly recommend you enter from a different angle to these
conversations. There are many reasons someone may need the sampled
data of newcomers. A few examples: they may want to test the
assumption whether the arrivals (registrations) to a specific
Wikipedia language follow a Poisson process or not, they may want to
learn about the distribution of topics editors in a given language
edit in the first 24 hours after they open the account, they may want
to build a prediction model to predict whether the editor will make
the n-th edit or not given that they have started at time x, they may
want to see whether external events have strong correlations with
account registration and Wikipedia activity, they may want to see if
the change to HTTPS had impact on registrations, etc. There are
literally millions of questions people may ask (given that the data is
available to them) with respect to Wikipedia. The answer to some of
them may require interaction with Wikipedia editors, the answer to
some may not. So the safest bet to start having a fruitful
conversation is to ask: can you tell us more about what you're trying
to do?
I'm trying to protect the community from
problematic
interventions, while also welcoming research that is accepted by the
community.
I understand and I'm looking forward to having conversations with you
all about how to achieve that.
Best,
Leila
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