Leila, can we discuss this off list?
Thanks,
Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 9:29 PM Leila Zia leila@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 1:56 PM Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Leila, I believe that I asked for more information regarding Heifeng's work.
You stated
"However, if you're planning to send surveys or messages to them, sending them barnstars, or otherwise manipulating their on-wiki experience, that would be problematic."
and I'm suggesting that you enter from a question angle, please.
There has been discussion on English Wikipedia regarding volunteers being unhappy with the interventions or proposed interventions of researchers. I think that asking about the nature of Haifeng's research
is
legitimate, and I tried to provide some examples of possible types of research.
Please check your email. There was no question there in the part related to this discussion. Also, even if there was a question posed, I highly recommend you enter from a different angle to these conversations. There are many reasons someone may need the sampled data of newcomers. A few examples: they may want to test the assumption whether the arrivals (registrations) to a specific Wikipedia language follow a Poisson process or not, they may want to learn about the distribution of topics editors in a given language edit in the first 24 hours after they open the account, they may want to build a prediction model to predict whether the editor will make the n-th edit or not given that they have started at time x, they may want to see whether external events have strong correlations with account registration and Wikipedia activity, they may want to see if the change to HTTPS had impact on registrations, etc. There are literally millions of questions people may ask (given that the data is available to them) with respect to Wikipedia. The answer to some of them may require interaction with Wikipedia editors, the answer to some may not. So the safest bet to start having a fruitful conversation is to ask: can you tell us more about what you're trying to do?
I'm trying to protect the community from problematic interventions, while also welcoming research that is accepted by the community.
I understand and I'm looking forward to having conversations with you all about how to achieve that.
Best, Leila
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