On the disclosure question, i totally agree with Jimmy.  Compensation information is highly private and personal.  I never, ever disclose such information unless unambiguously required to do so by a legal regulation. At the WMF, we're unambiguously required to disclose in our tax filings the compensation of the top 5 employees with compensation greater than $150k / year according to a very very carefully designed standard formula that captures base salary, bonus, perquisites, etc.  See page 37 of our most recent tax filing at http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/1/1c/WMF_2009_2010_Form_990.pdf which includes detail on Sue's compensation (the only employee in that year who was paid more than $150k).

On Thierry's broader question, at the WMF we follow some best practices.  We have a separate HR Committee of the Board which is responsible for reviewing compensation and setting compensation philosophy (it reports annually to the full board).   That Committee commissions a study from an independent compensation consultant who reviews the compensation of top employees and sets broader compensation bands for other executives.  We look for comparables to the local non-profit community.  We also compete in the San Francisco area for the technical talent that makes up more than half of the paid staff at the Foundation. So we consider local hiring practices (and compensation levels) in the local technical community as additional data points.  

Does that help? 

-s


On Feb 4, 2012, at 8:53 AM, Jimmy Wales wrote:

I am of a different view.  I think that in general, individual salaries should be private.  The whole purpose of having a board of directors (elected by the members) is to handle such details in a responsible manner.  It is true that some trolls / conspiracy theorists will darkly hint that there is something wrong with this, but it is standard practice for organizations.

I do agree with Craig, though, that for senior staff there is a tradeoff.  And in many jurisdictions (US and France for example), the most highly paid few employees must have their salaries public by law. And that can be a good practice.

But for chapters that will end up having 10+ employees, including a receptionist, accountant, public relations person, etc., there is no good reason to have everyone's salary public.

This may vary culturally as well, so local public expectations matter.

On 2/3/12 4:20 PM, Craig Franklin wrote:
I'm all for as much transparency as possible!  The only possible
drawback I can see is that some people have an (entirely justifiable, in
some situations) preference not to have their salary plastered all over
the Internet.  This in turn might make them less than eager to apply for
jobs with a chapter, which in turn means that the chapter might not get
the absolute best person for the job.

Personally though, I think that tradeoff is worth it, at least for
senior staff.

Cheers,
Craig

On 4 February 2012 04:38, Thierry Coudray <thierry.coudray@wikimedia.fr
<mailto:thierry.coudray@wikimedia.fr>> wrote:

   I open this discussion as this issue arise for WMFr and its
   professionalization, and I believe same for others chapters.
   I would like to know if the foundation or others chapters who have
   recruited or will do it have define a wage policy and have decide a
   public transparency for this wages.

   Wikimedia France had an employee during less than one year before we
   separated through a negociation.It's salary was not published but
   easy to find in our accounts as he was our only employee. We then
   recruited within a short period, 3 employees with a permanent
   contract and one with fixed-term contractin charge of the
   fundraising. So it raised the question of wage policy, equity
   between employees, and transparency of wages. Even more because some
   of this employees are former WMFr volunteers.

   In France, the practice is that the wages in charities or NGOs are
   generally 15 to 20% below market value. Difficult to check for small
   organizationsbecause in France, it's culturally not easy to
   speak/disclose personal wage even if things are changing.  Difficult
   also because some jobs in charities are very specific and sometimes
   do not have their equivalent in the job-market.
   If a charities or NGOs received more than 50 000 € of public money
   (from public administration, cities, etc.), the organization has to
   disclose it's more 3 highest wages, post and name of the
   post-holder.  But most of the time, this disclosure is not easy to
   find for an ordinary donator as you should do where to find it, most
   of the time in an annex, lost in the middle of accountings documents.

   We have discussions on this point on WMFr board, and personaly I'm a
   for the higher wages transparancy we can, for our members and
   donators, despite cultural curbs.

   Thierry

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