On Dec 19, 2018, at 1:53 PM, Pine W &lt;wiki.pine(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: Hello Elena, I am glad to hear that WMF wants to do outreach in a variety of languages. However, I have a concern. Volunteers in many languages, in my experience, don't simply appear within 24 hours when someone wants a non-urgent translation, and I think that as a matter of courtesy WMF should give more than 24 hours' notice for a request of this nature. I think that 7 days might be realistic. Is there a reason for such short notice, and is there a reason that WMF cannot wait longer than 24 hours for a translation before posting this message to village pumps if a volunteer does not provide one within 24 hours? Thanks. On Wed, Dec 19, 2018, 1:34 PM Elena Lappen &lt;elappen(a)wikimedia.org <mailto:elappen@wikimedia.org>> wrote: Hello all, We are looking to spread the word about nine new Strategy Liaison positions with the Movement Strategy Team. The brief message to be translated is linked here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:ELappen_(WMF)/Sandbox <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:ELappen_(WMF)/Sandbox> We would like it translated into Arabic, French, German, Hindi, Japanese, Mandarin, Portuguese, Russian, and Spanish. We will post it at those local Village Pumps in ~24 hours. If you want to learn more about the position or are interested in applying, follow the link in the post. Please also pass it along to others you think may be interested. Best, Elena -- Elena Lappen Community Relations Specialist Wikimedia Foundation _______________________________________________ Translators-l mailing list Translators-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Translators-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/translators-l <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/translators-l> -- Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine> ) _______________________________________________ Translators-l mailing list Translators-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/translators-l

Hi Elana, I continue to think that a rush here is not needed. The strategy process is a long term one, and different from something like a response to a security incident where a short turnaround may be highly desirable. I would like the strategy process to proceed at a reasonable pace, and I think that a request for translations into all of the languages that you mentioned in seven days would be okay. A high level of expertise is not the same as a high level of availabiliy. In general, I don't take it very well when WMF makes short notice requests to volunteers without a compelling reason.  I want to keep the strategy process moving forward, but I also want WMF to be respectful of volunteers' time. I think that a 24 hour turnaround here is unnecessary. I can't stop WMF from making short notice requests for volunteers' time, and likely some volunteers will generously respond in that timeframe, but I think that short notice requests should generally be avoided as a matter of courtesy even if they are realistic. Volunteers will be plenty active during WMF's holidays. If WMF wants to have translations done before WMF holidays then I think that WMF should make the request further in advance. On Wed, Dec 19, 2018, 3:00 PM Elena Lappen &lt;elappen(a)wikimedia.org <mailto:elappen@wikimedia.org>> wrote: Hi Pine, As I’m sure you can appreciate, we want to do our best to get the job posting to the community as quickly as possible in order to maximize the amount of time potential applicants have to give it consideration. We are shooting for approximately 24 hours, but may re-evaluate depending on the translations we receive. We took multiple factors into account when making this determination: the short length of the translation (one paragraph), the high level of expertise in the translator community, and the fact that many in the community may be beginning their holidays next week. Furthermore, based on past experience, we know that a little over 24 hours is generally sufficient. Again, we may revisit this depending on progress. Best, Elena --  Elena Lappen Community Relations Specialist  Wikimedia Foundation  _______________________________________________ Translators-l mailing list Translators-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Translators-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/translators-l -- Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) _______________________________________________ Translators-l mailing list Translators-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/translators-l