On 26/03/2008, Casey Brown <cbrown1023.ml(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hm IANAT (I am not a translator), but maybe you should wait until pages are complete before asking for translations. The dates, and the application form, the two most important parts, are not available yet. What is the point of translating something that is near useless in its current form? Better to wait for the complete document first, I would guess. cheers Brianna -- They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment: http://modernthings.org/

Hi, Alain and all On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:26 PM, Desilets, Alain <Alain.Desilets(a)nrc-cnrc.gc.ca> wrote: Totally agreed. We here face two different cultural traditions - one is quite old and another is young - conflicted and trying to get a new horizon to land. Again, traditional request for translation come only after the source material done and it has its virtue as Brianna suggested: it is a standard way of industrical age to order a contractor something. It works very well, since translation is somehow artisan works, need a time, concentration and of course expertise. On the other hand it is far from Wiki Way, anything can be altered swiftly and people may be aware there will be no "final stable version". Its strength is exactly in this point - anyone can edit, modified and it is determinative. It is open, and that is its virtue. I expect all of us - who enjoy wiki collaboration know its potential and weakness. It fits to handle things very up-to-date and quickly modified - Wikinewsies and Wikipedians may know it very well - and in the case data will be soon fixed but not yet and the other parts are on the contrary fixed and ready to go into the next step - in this context translation. I am not sure MediaWiki is an architecture which fits more to the traditional way but the general tendency of translators seems to be inclined to the traditional way. I rembemer some translators were upset or complained when they saw the source materials unready or modified after we have asked them to translate. In this reason I tend to avoid asking for translation when the draft is still edited, but personally I don't mind to work on ongoing materials - is that exactly what we are doing on content translations from one wiki to the oter? Thanks for putting it to this list. I recommend you particular who leads a team as a coordinator to give a look. You may enjoy it and find it interesting as I did so. No problem, and thanks for giving nice foods of thought strongly relevant to wiki and translation :) -- KIZU Naoko http://d.hatena.ne.jp/Britty (in Japanese) Quote of the Day (English): http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/WQ:QOTD

I sent an invitation to the 98 people registered on wiki-translation. www.wiki-translation.com Hopefully it will help. While we are on the topic of volunteer translation of wiki content, I would like to mention the Collaborative Translation and Terminology workshop that I am trying to organise for WikiSym 2008 (Porto, Portugal, Sept 8-10): http://www.wiki-translation.com/Collaborative+Translation+Workshop+at+WikiS… If any of you are interested in participating, please put your name in the "People who would like to attend and or present" section of the above page. Alain Désilets WikiSym 2008 Publicity Chair Wiki-translation moderator