Dear translators,

Further to the below message exchange, I have decided to apply on Meta for Translation Administration rights. Please fell free to vote at


Haytham Abulela Aly

Freelance Translator
Creative Translation
"Creative & Confident"

Certified member of the Society of Translators and Interpreters of British Columbia (STIBC) (EN>AR)
Arab Professional Translators' Society member (#10850)
Certified member at Egyptian Translators Association (EGYTA)
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On 27/03/2018 11:37 AM, Johan Jönsson wrote:
On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 11:40 PM, Sylvain Chiron <> wrote:

Le 15/03/2018 à 17:17, Haytham Aly a écrit :
> I wanted to avoid this option since it might confer additional rights to
> translators that they might not use, and also to avoid issues during
> annual audits. I do agree that creating an additional group that offers
> access to Special:ImportTranslations only will fragment user rights, but
> I thought this fragmentation is better than offering rights that will
> not be used.

Why are you actually afraid about those unused rights? When a right
exists and is provided selectively, it’s just a flag for every user.
Each user can have the flag raised or not. If and only if it’s raised,
the user can use the right, but is not obliged to do so. The right can
also be coded as a tag that a user can have or not; it’s still few data.

Law also offers many rights to citizens that are, in the same manner,
never used.

Also, the status quo is also an example of unused rights – I'm a translation admin and have never used Special:ImportTranslations, since that's not why I've got the rights. This is fairly common in the Wikimedia world. It's rare for a Wikimedia wiki admin to do everything one can do with the general sysop rights, for example. With that said, someone wanting to get the translation admin rights will normally be asked to demonstrate general knowledge of how to add translation tags and mark a page for translation, which might be a bit unnecessary to read up on if it's not what one wants to do. 

//Johan Jönsson


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