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hi,
in order to increase collaboration between users on the Toolserver, and discourage single-person ownership of tools, we would like to introduce multi-maintainer tools on the Toolserver. these are similar to stable server projects, except there is no need to migrate to a new server; they run on the normal Toolserver. (the flip side of this is that problems on the normal Toolserver will affect multi-maintainer tools as well as normal tools.)
a multi-maintainer tool runs under a dedicated Unix account, which its maintainers may access using 'sudo'. only one tool is allowed to run under such an account, and the account may not be used for anything else.
eventually we plan to let users create these tools automatically; until then, they must be created manually by an admin. if you would like a multi-maintainer tool project, please file a request in the TS project in JIRA, listing:
* your Toolserver username * the account name for the tool * the account names of any other users who should have access.
it may take a few days to create the account, since we're still working out exactly how these tools will work.
if you like, you may create a multi-maintainer tool with only a single maintainer. this will allow you to add additional maintainers later.
at the moment, there is no advantage to using a multi-maintainer tool; however, we are looking at ways to encourage users to create such tools, and discourage tools owned by a single user.
- river.
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 5:34 PM, River Tarnellriver@loreley.flyingparchment.org.uk wrote:
at the moment, there is no advantage to using a multi-maintainer tool; however, we are looking at ways to encourage users to create such tools, and discourage tools owned by a single user.
At the moment, I am running 30+ tools on the toolserver. Many of those have grown over the years, requiring adaptations, refactoring, or rewriting. My JIRA tracker has 68 open issues. And I still don't have toolserver SVN, even though I asked for it month ago.
I also have work to do in real life. Anyone willing to "adopt" one (or several) of my tools as a co-maintainer, please, PLEASE just say the word :-)
Cheers, Magnus
I wıll when I'm back ın England (1st August). Easıer than wrıtıng my own [?] Fahad Sadah
2009/7/27 Magnus Manske magnusmanske@googlemail.com
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 5:34 PM, River Tarnellriver@loreley.flyingparchment.org.uk wrote:
at the moment, there is no advantage to using a multi-maintainer tool;
however,
we are looking at ways to encourage users to create such tools, and
discourage
tools owned by a single user.
At the moment, I am running 30+ tools on the toolserver. Many of those have grown over the years, requiring adaptations, refactoring, or rewriting. My JIRA tracker has 68 open issues. And I still don't have toolserver SVN, even though I asked for it month ago.
I also have work to do in real life. Anyone willing to "adopt" one (or several) of my tools as a co-maintainer, please, PLEASE just say the word :-)
Cheers, Magnus
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Hallo Magnus,
I can also help you.
Viele Grüße Jan
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: toolserver-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:toolserver-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von Magnus Manske Gesendet: Montag, 27. Juli 2009 10:56 An: toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org; toolserver-announce@lists.wikimedia.org Betreff: Re: [Toolserver-l] multi-maintainer tools
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 5:34 PM, River Tarnellriver@loreley.flyingparchment.org.uk wrote:
at the moment, there is no advantage to using a multi-maintainer tool;
however,
we are looking at ways to encourage users to create such tools, and
discourage
tools owned by a single user.
At the moment, I am running 30+ tools on the toolserver. Many of those have grown over the years, requiring adaptations, refactoring, or rewriting. My JIRA tracker has 68 open issues. And I still don't have toolserver SVN, even though I asked for it month ago.
I also have work to do in real life. Anyone willing to "adopt" one (or several) of my tools as a co-maintainer, please, PLEASE just say the word :-)
Cheers, Magnus
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Magnus Manske:
And I still don't have toolserver SVN, even though I asked for it month ago.
where did you ask for it?
- river.
Email to ts-admins@toolserver.org, April 17, titled "Stable TS: geohack SVN setup", where I ask for * SVN for geohack on stable * SVN for all my tools on "normal" toolserver
The stable one is still broken, AFAIK. No SVN for me on normal either.
Magnus
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 12:19 PM, River Tarnellriver@loreley.flyingparchment.org.uk wrote:
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Magnus Manske:
And I still don't have toolserver SVN, even though I asked for it month ago.
where did you ask for it?
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Also, http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer_Diskussion:DaB.#SVN_repo
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 12:19 PM, River Tarnellriver@loreley.flyingparchment.org.uk wrote:
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Magnus Manske:
And I still don't have toolserver SVN, even though I asked for it month ago.
where did you ask for it?
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Hello, Am Montag 27 Juli 2009 14:03:32 schrieb Magnus Manske:
Email to ts-admins@toolserver.org, April 17, titled "Stable TS:
Am Montag 27 Juli 2009 14:04:06 schrieb Magnus Manske:
Also, http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer_Diskussion:DaB.#SVN_repo
and both is wrong. Use the TS-Project on Jira please.
Sincerly, DaB.
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 1:12 PM, DaB.WP@daniel.baur4.info wrote:
Hello, Am Montag 27 Juli 2009 14:03:32 schrieb Magnus Manske:
Email to ts-admins@toolserver.org, April 17, titled "Stable TS:
Am Montag 27 Juli 2009 14:04:06 schrieb Magnus Manske:
Also, http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer_Diskussion:DaB.#SVN_repo
and both is wrong. Use the TS-Project on Jira please.
And since April, noone could invest 5 secs to reply to these two queries, even if it's "use JIRA" ... why?
Magnus
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 2:04 PM, DaB.WP@daniel.baur4.info wrote:
Hello, Am Montag 27 Juli 2009 14:24:32 schrieb Magnus Manske:
And since April, noone could invest 5 secs to reply to these two queries, even if it's "use JIRA" ... why?
ok, it was my fault. Is now everybody happy?
I wasn't trying to assign blame, merely pointing out where communications could be improved.
I've submitted JIRA requests, all is well now.
Cheers, Magnus
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Magnus Manske:
And since April, noone could invest 5 secs to reply to these two queries, even if it's "use JIRA" ... why?
because the Toolserver is run by volunteers, and it's difficult to delegate responsibility in that environment; as a result, no one has the task of "respond to ts-admins mails" assigned to them, so no one does it.
- river.
River Tarnell schrieb:
Magnus Manske:
And since April, noone could invest 5 secs to reply to these two queries, even if it's "use JIRA" ... why?
because the Toolserver is run by volunteers, and it's difficult to delegate responsibility in that environment; as a result, no one has the task of "respond to ts-admins mails" assigned to them, so no one does it.
- river.
Also, that queue is full of spam :/
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Daniel Kinzler:
Also, that queue is full of spam :/
the first thing i do when going through it is bulk-delete the spam. only takes a couple of minutes.
- river.
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 3:13 PM, River Tarnellriver@loreley.flyingparchment.org.uk wrote:
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Daniel Kinzler:
Also, that queue is full of spam :/
the first thing i do when going through it is bulk-delete the spam. only takes a couple of minutes.
Well, it is called ts-ADmins ...
/me ducks
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