Hello,
At Monday 16 January 2012 13:41:28 DaB. wrote:
As an interwiki bot runner myself, I find this plan a
little too
constrained.
It is a little bit drastic, yes but it will work. There were some other ideas
in the past (see Chris Grant's mail), but they didn't work at the end. The new
plan has the following advantages:
- YOU (the ts-users) make the rules and decide who should be in the MMP (I
never said BTW that the people in the MMP should make the rules),
-The roots can contact the group quite easily instead of speaking to douzends
of users,
-The Wikimedia-Project-People (Wikipedians, Wikisourclers, etc.) have only 1
contact-adress too,
-The cases of "bot a removes a link and bot b put it in again 5 minutes later"
will reduce very much.
Many of us run the interwiki bots on many different
configuration and with this MMP project created, some configurations that
we use would then not be available with this new plan. I can't think of
much, but seeing from top -c, I can tell that the other bot runners run
their bots differently from mine.
Like Hercule said, that should be the homewiki for most times; and it should
be no problem of the MMP-people to switch the homewiki now and then (e.g. if
they run 5 instances of their bot and change the homewiki ever hour, then
every project is the homewiki every 3 days).
The MMP should also only be for interwiki-bots which run permantly; if an user
let run a bot because a wiki needs to change 100 interwiki-links on a one-
time-base, that's no problem.
Personally, I rather we wait for the
Pywikipedia devs to fix that script, install more memory for interwiki
bots, or create another custom login server just for running interwiki
bots.
Throwing more hardware at a problem doesn't fix the problem at all and like
Merlijn wrote already, I doubt that the pywikipedia-devs will fix the problem
soon (they know about it for years, and don't seems to care that after some
time a simple python-script needs more memory than a java-programm *including*
the virtual maschine!).
Your plan is generally okay, just about having only 5
people to run
this project, from many many bot operators, its quite hard to choose. Its
best if people don't run multiple interwiki bots for one project
(especially enwiktionary, which has an overload of interwiki bots).
In theory, 1 user would be enough to run a interwiki-bots (or serveral
instances of it) for all wikis. I increased the number to 5 to make sure that
there is always somebody to controll the bots.
Regards,
Hydriz
Sincerly,
DaB.
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