On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 01:59:51AM -0400, Ryan Lane wrote:
Of course, as I mentioned before, there's nothing forcing this new
model at all. If you guys want to build the exact same Toolserver
environment as a Labs project, go for it. I have a good feeling you'll
start doing things differently when you see the affordances given by
having more rights, though. Either path chosen, we'll help you with
infrastructure issues along the way.
This statement has been made before, but then you put all responsibility
with the community, while the foundation can benefit as well. What people
want and has appeared usefull, is a *supported* environment like toolserver
where people can just get an account, run bots to support a wiki, experiment
with simple tools, if needed work and support a tool together. This can
then be a breeding bed for tools, and if needed brought a stage up, be
documented and pacakged, so it can be rolled out as a wmf supported tool.
That the toolserver environment is supported is imho an essential. While
volunteer admins can certainly help and do a lot of work, including helping
non-unix persons to startup, if there are really problems with the
environment, it better guaranties there is somebody available to acct.